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MaximusJehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty


Here's another example of how the Society uses selective quotations. (See the thread Blood, the Watchtower and Deceit for two other examples, carefully documented.)

Under the title "Is It Wrong to Pronounce God’s Name?" the March 8, 1999, issue of Awake! observes that many scholars in Christendom 'follow the spirit of Jewish tradition' when translating the Bible:

"The New Oxford Annotated Bible comments in its preface: ‘The use of any proper name for the one and only God, as though there were other gods from whom the true God had to be distinguished, began to be discontinued in Judaism before the Christian era and is inappropriate for the universal faith of the Christian Church.’

"Therefore," continues Awake!, "in that translation the word ‘LORD’ [cap and small caps] is substituted for the divine name." The article asks the question, Do these views "reflect God’s thinking?"

The quotation is accurate. But it is quite misleading. By seeing just one sentence from the preface, the reader is led to believe that these translators are shallow in their reasoning. They don't reflect "God's thinking." Godless scholars, tainted by Christendom, right?

Something is missing--purposefully omitted. The writers have utilized only a partial quotation, as we have seen them do time and again. Read on if you want to understand the issue fully.

The sentence they quote actually begins with "(2)." They ignored (1) entirely!

The preceding explanatory material (1) is completely omitted and reasons, implications and conclusions totally ignored.

See for yourself. Take a look at the full discussion in "To the Reader" of this translation, the NRSV, New Revised Standard Version, New Oxford Annotated Bible (p. xiii). They don't even tell you the NOAB is the NRSV translation.

Among other items, the omitted material notes that LORD represents the traditional manner of rendering the Tetragrammaton, "following the precedent of the ancient Greek and Latin translators and the long established practice in the reading of the Hebrew Scriptures in the synagogue. While it is almost if not quite certain that the Name was originally pronounced ‘Yahweh,’ this pronunciation was not indicated when the Masoretes added vowel sounds to the consonantal text."

They note that, because the name was 'too sacred to be pronounced,' vowel points--small markings--were added that would indicate the use of Adonai (Lord) when reading aloud. Comments are made on the Greek and Latin use of Kyrios and Dominus, respectively.

Awake! omits that material too.

Would you like to read the flat facts they omitted?

"The form ‘Jehovah’ is of late medieval origin; it is a combination of the consonants of the Divine Name and the vowels attached to it by the Masoretes but belonging to an entirely different word.

"Although the American Standard Version (1901) had used ‘Jehovah’ to render the Tetragrammaton, ... for two [note: two] reasons the Committees that produced the RSV and the NRSV returned to the more familiar usage of the King James Version.

"(1) THE WORD 'JEHOVAH' DOES NOT ACCURATELY REPRESENT ANY FORM OF THE NAME EVER USED IN HEBREW." [emphasis mine]

Could that be more clear? That's their prime reason for not using Jehovah.

To drive home the point: This second reason the NRSV doesn't use the word Jehovah is stated only after reason or fact (1). Awake! omits the above statement, omits the (2) and lifts only a single sentence for its purpose. Is that how "God thinks"?

And who are "such translators," as Awake! almost casually refers to them? Please look at the signatory name appearing under "For the Committee." It's the name of the highly acclaimed Biblical Greek scholar who is also one of the two editors. (See p. xiv.)

Guess who it is?

Bruce M. Metzger. Professor emeritus at Princeton. The dean of Biblical Greek scholars today. Not a godless or arrogant man, as anyone will tell you who has met him. His printed works are monuments to sound scholarship recognized globally, standards of excellence. (See Amazon.com to check him out.)

Recognize that name?

Students of the Watchtower Society’s publications will immediately recognize this prestigious name as having been used many times to support a stand they wanted to make. The old 'quotation out of context' game.

Isn't it hypocrisy to cite him as an authority when you want to paint him as agreeing with you, but to disavow the heart of his informative scholarship?

"The word 'Jehovah' does not accurately represent any form ever used in Hebrew."

The next time a JW loftily says, "No one else knows and uses the name Jehovah," you have some ammunition: Truth.

How do you feel about such misleading quotations?

Maximus

Hey, AlanF. Didn't you once tell me that Metzger threatened legal action should the Society ever use even an accurate quotation out of context?

M
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Had EnoughRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
Hello Maximus:

How do I feel about this? Outraged doesn't even cover it!

I was one who, time and time again, said those words: "No one else knows and uses the name Jehovah".

And why? Because that's what we were told to over and over, and why wouldn't we believe these quotes taken out of context and misapplied to misrepresent the truth? I was taught to trust the org. right from my birth on so why would I even think of questioning their "knowledge and spirit direction"?

I get so angry and frustrated when I read the exposure of their misrepresented quotes like this one, and in the Creation book and...just how many more are there?

Yes I'm outraged at them for fooling me and making a fool of me, and for the hooks they have in my family who would turn a deaf ear to this info just like they've been taught to....and also for all the others who's lives are being wasted being controlled by these twisted men.

However I am and will be eternally thankful to all of you out there who have found these proofs of their deceitfulness out and had enough love for us to bring this to our knowledge and to continue to stay here to help the "newly departed" from the org. You present facts to us that we can check out and see for ourselves so that no one can say that we are being mislead by lies.

Thank you

Had Enough

ps: as for Bruce Metzgar...I wish he would sue the WTS for misapplying his quotes and make a big public stink about it too!
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CopernicusRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
Maximus:

Excellent material!

Reading the information in your post actually “hurt” me. The pain stems from the fact that I still have many close friends who are going door to door in good faith – the good faith stemming from their instilled belief that the WTS would never send them forth as sheep to the slaughter bearing material polluted by distortions of truth, if not outright lies. I present my comment in this way as it recalls the many times that I was personally confronted by those I encountered in field service who had a knowledge of the WT’s misleading tactics. The embarrassment and hurt I felt at those times was palpable.

How could an organization which claims to “love” its adherents, subject them to this sort “guilt by association” - so to speak?

I was reminded of the society’s regular referencing of the following scripture:

Isaiah 52:11 Turn away, turn away, get out of there, touch nothing unclean; get out from the midst of her, keep yourselves clean, YOU who are carrying the utensils of Jehovah.

Often with the implication that the “utensils” being carried today were packaged as the material prepared by the WTS for “holy” service. And the near constant harangues that as those “carrying” the utensils we HAD to keep ourselves morally clean to qualify as ministers in God’s eyes. It appears that those injunctions don’t apply to the org itself with equal force.

The following articles came to mind:

w87 11/1 16 Are You Remaining Clean in Every Respect?

3 Jehovah’s Witnesses today must similarly be clean as bearers of Jehovah’s “utensils.” The apostle Paul quoted Isaiah’s words and applied them to Christians of his day. . . Some deceive themselves and others into believing that their lives are clean and acceptable to God, when in reality such is not the case. They practice a form of hypocrisy.

Well, now we all can see the form of hypocrisy practiced by the WTS in their misrepresentations of fact.

w87 11/1 20 Are You Remaining Clean in Every Respect? ***
16 Interestingly, a circuit overseer in France observes: “Some brothers are deceived because they lack accurate knowledge. . . Having this accurate knowledge, who would become so curious as to pay any attention to apostate mouthings? May no man “delude you with persuasive arguments”! False religious propaganda from any source should be avoided like poison! Really, since our Lord has used “the faithful and discreet slave” to convey to us “sayings of everlasting life,” why should we ever want to look anywhere else?—John 6:68.

I do agree that “false religious propaganda from any source” is poison. The WT and AWAKE being no exception. The self-aggrandizement evident in the direct statement that THEY are being used by a supposed God of truth to disseminate anything, is sickening.

Will we ever see the day when these men will be held accountable for their own words?
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ThirdsonRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
Thanks Maximus,

An excellent piece, I will save it for future reference. When you see the dishonesty in these quotes it makes you wonder about everything the WTS quotes. The Creator book is crammed full of unidentified quotes, many of which, I would guess knowing the expertise of the authors quoted, are taken out of context. If wish I had the time to find the source of the quotes.

Thirdson

'To avoid criticism, say nothing, do nothing, be nothing'
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VM44Re: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
Good article Maximus.

I do not know if Bruce Metzger wrote the Watchtower, but the noted Greek scholar Dr. Julius R. Mantey did.

Dr. Mantey, along with H.E. Dana, had written the book, "A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament", which the Watchtower Society had been using in order to justify the correctness of their Greek translations of key Bible scriptures.

Dr Mantey objected to the WT misquoting him, and wrote a letter to the Watchtower, dated July 11, 1974. Towards the end of the letter he wrote:

"In view of the preceding facts, especially because you have been quoting me out of context I here with request you not to quote the Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament again, which you have been doing for 24 years. "

The full text of Dr Mantey's Letter to the WTS may be found at this web address:
http://www.macgregorministries.org/jehovahs_witnesses/dr_mantey_lt.html

I do not know if Dr Mantey ever received a reply to his letter, but I believe an edict must have been issued in Brooklyn not to use Dr Mantey's name in any WT publication.

For instance, in the March 22, 1987 issue of the Awake! magazine, Nicholas Kip told his story about "How Knowing Greek Led Me to Know God" In a footnote to this article, the Grammar Manual is given as a reference, but only the author Dana is listed!!

--VM44
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qwertyRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
Thanks Maximus.

Another one for my growing study CDROM.


qwerty
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TRRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
Check this link out. It's a tribute to Bruce M. Metzger. http://ncccusa.org/news/2000GA/metzger.html

TR

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form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson*
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TRRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
VM44,

Is Dr. Mantey the same scholar that was on the "Witnesses Of Jehovah" video denouncing the NWT? He looks familiar.

TR

"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every
form of tyranny over the mind of man." --Thomas Jefferson*
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Eusebius HieronymusRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
Up!
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VM44Re: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
Hi TR,

Yes, Dr Mantey does appear briefly in the "Witnesses of Jehovah" movie.

--VM44
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r51785Re: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
I will never forget Dr. Mantey's letter as it was the first piece of evidence that made me realize WT dishonesty. It was shown to me in early 1976 by a young San Diego State University student named David Tidd. David was a young Christian man who had started "studying" with one of our elders. This elder couldn't cope with David's questions so he turned the "study" over to me (the young pioneer). I didn't study with David, he studyed with me. I didn't convert him to the WT, but he started the process that eventually led me to Christianity. God bless you David, twenty-five years later!
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ozziepostRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
I can recall the day when Mrs Ozzie was reading a book that detailed some of the many mis-quotes in the publications.

Her reaction? "Liars, liars, liars. They've been lying to me all these years!"

Yep, just as with Had Enough, Mrs Ozzie had been raised a Witness and took on trust what the organisation had told her. After all, they wouldn't (couldn't) lie, could they? But when she saw it in black and white, she was shocked in the extreme. Never again would she, or has she, had any regard for the publications. The magazines which she used to devour (especially Awake!) were left unread, or if they were read it was with a degree of scepticism.

Looking back, however, we can be grateful. That may seem strange but at least now we know the truth, and we know it ain't 'the troof'!

Cheers,
Ozzie

"Truth persuades by teaching, but does not teach by persuading."
TERTULLIAN, Adversus Valentinianos
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Big TexRe: Re: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
"(1) THE WORD 'JEHOVAH' DOES NOT ACCURATELY REPRESENT ANY FORM OF THE NAME EVER USED IN HEBREW." [emphasis mine]

I did not know this.  I always thought Jehovah was an English derivative of Yahweh.  Well it just figures they would warp this too. 
How do you feel about such misleaing quotations?

Sad.  I remember all the times in school witnessing to the other kids and oh-so-smugly feeling like I knew something they didn't.  I remember once getting into an argument with a preacher's kid about the name.  He said his father told him Jehovah was meaningless.  I deftly used my Watchtower trained skills and "showed" him the truth.  I won the argument, but I was wrong.
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blondieRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty

A little off topic, Big Tex, I always wondered if God had the power to preserve the Bible down to now, why couldn't he preserve the pronounciation of his name?

Blondie
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Big TexRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty

Good question.  Because some copyist in the 14th century didn't know how to spell?

Don't worry about that Blondie, just keep your head down and make your two comments at the next meeting.
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blondieRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty

BigTex, no can do; I no longer attend.  But I do post "comments you won't hear at the WT study."

Blondie
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Big TexRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
I know, I was just joshing.  My humour button doesn't work so well early on a Sunday morning.
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EarnestRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty

This subject was also discussed at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/34547/460032/post.ashx#460032.
"(1) THE WORD 'JEHOVAH' DOES NOT ACCURATELY REPRESENT ANY FORM OF THE NAME EVER USED IN HEBREW." [emphasis mine]

Hmmm. It is probably true that 'Jehovah' is not a transliteration of the Hebrew. There is good reason to believe the first vowel was an 'a' but it is possible the name was pronounced as three syllables rather than the two in 'Yahweh'. Of course, it is even more certain that THE WORD 'LORD' DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY FORM OF THE NAME, ACCURATE OR NOT. Every translator of the Hebrew bible knows that "lord" is not a translation of God's name in any sense, it is a substitution. That is what Jews do when they read God's name in the Bible...they substitute, and they know they are doing it. At least, in the Hebrew bible the name is still printed. If one believes that they are translating the word of God it really is quite blasphemous to remove his name in thousands of places. If the Committee believes that "the word 'Jehovah' does not accurately represent any form of the Name ever used in Hebrew" and that it is "almost if not quite certain that the Name was originally pronounced 'Yahweh' ", then they should use 'Yahweh', as the Jerusalem Bible does.
I did not know this. I always thought Jehovah was an English derivative of Yahweh. 

As we don't know how the Jews pronounced it, it seems quite dogmatic for the NRSV Committee to say that 'Jehovah' doesn't represent ANY form of the name EVER used in Hebrew. But the reason that God's name is translated as 'Jehovah' is that is the name the first English translators (e.g. Tyndale) used. If they had used 'Yahweh' or 'Henry' then it is unlikely 'Jehovah' would ever have been used. But that is how they translated his name and, as a result, that is his name in English.

Earnest
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DanTheManRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty

Earnest,

I think the point of this very old post by a very missed poster was that the WT used selective quoting unfairly to villify their hated enemy Christendom and to put it into the reader's mind to "trust US, not THEM, because THEY'RE BAD!" 

Typical WT propaganda.
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unclebruceRe: Jehovah, and Watchtower Dishonesty
BTTT
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