Scully	Re: Feral elders
	Sixy: Well, any strategy ideas? I'm curious about the what and who of the charges, but not curious enough to go into the meeting and debate any charges against me. Nor do I feel like "reasoning from the scriptures" with these clowns, as that is not my forte, and they don't reason anyway, especially not in groups. It looks to me like one of two things will happen: a) They will disfellowship me (most likely) b) They will dissasociate me (less likely unless I do it for them) I'm thinking the best course to minimize the impact on my family, is to go ahead and dissasociate. It may screw my chances of helping any of my old acquaintances, but I think the family will for the most part just *yawn* and say "we knew that". Anyway, I'd send out a note to all of them letting them know it was under duress, and that I would have preferred to just fade away. Were there "two eyewitnesses" to the behaviour that brought about the serious accusations against you?? Or do you think they may just be on a fishing expedition? You can't confirm or deny anything unless they tell you what charges they have against you. They aren't supposed to DF someone unless they disclose the charges and give the person an opportunity to confirm or deny or defend themselves. Why not go to the Quotes website and D/L the Pay Attention book and read up on the procedural information regarding judicial committee meetings. I believe the book says that the accused is permitted to have someone in attendance for moral support. You can deny any charges against you (hey it seems to work for child molesters... ) particularly if this is a fishing trip or on the word of one person or people spreading malicious slanderous rumours and gossip. If you really want to get them going, you can deny the accusations as being "complete and utter lies and fabrications" and say that you are accusing your accuser of slander and that you expect them to follow up on it, and that such people have no place in Jehovah's Organization? and that's a huge part of the reason why you are inactive. I know it's not much comfort, but they will do what they want to do in the end. Just don't submit a letter of disassociation. When they make an announcement to that effect at the KH, everyone will assume that you've written a letter, and you can counter that with a true statement that you did NOT submit a letter of disassociation, and that the elders lied about it from the platform. There won't be any letter for them to produce to prove that you willingly DAd either. It makes JWs very uncomfortable when you get all upset and go on about "Why would the elders lie about me like that to the congregation?? I am so STUMBLED!! The Devil is supposed to operate in a deceitful way, but these people say they are God's Organization!! How on earth could this happen?? How can I show my face to my friends anymore??" You get the idea. It worked well when I used it. Love, Scully PS:  Oh yeah, if you do go on Wednesday night, make sure you get everything on tape. heh heh
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