Can A JW "Call The Whole Thing Off"?

by Englishman 11 Replies latest jw friends

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    JW's can't end an engagement to marry someone.

    When my teenage engagement to A JW sister ended, I was asked to state who had brought the relationship to an end because that person would be summoned to appear before a JC.

    I was astonished at this infringement on a person's freedom.

    Here's the WT's take on this:

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    Is it proper for a Christian who is engaged to be married to break off that engagement??A. H., U.S.A.

    Marriage is a gift from God that can bring happiness and fulfillment to an individual; yet it also brings serious responsibilities, so it should not be taken lightly. While in some places parents still arrange the betrothal of their offspring, in many societies a single adult is allowed the freedom to select a mate. If two Christians in this latter situation agree or promise to marry, they can be expected, under normal circumstances, to keep their word.

    Before a person agrees to a thing, he should give it the forethought the matter demands. Then when he gives his word, he can follow Jesus? advice to "let your word Yes mean Yes, your No, No." (Matt. 5:37) Special solemn oaths are not needed by Christians in order to make their words believable. When one says something, he should mean it.

    So when two Christians have reached an agreement that they are going to marry, their word should stand. No special public statement or act is usually needed, though often such is made. In discussing "Breach of Promise of Marriage," American Jurisprudence, Volume 8, pages 849 and 850, said: "No particular form of words is necessary to give rise to the [betrothal]; it is sufficient that the minds of the parties have met and that the engagement is mutually agreed upon."

    Of course, it is not an engagement when a proposal only has been made, but not accepted. The same legal book said: "The promise by one party without a corresponding promise to him is only an offer of marriage and not a contract [engagement]." (Page 849) Thus when we speak of an engagement, we mean a mutual agreement involving the honest word of both parties.

    Engagement was considered so serious among the Hebrews that a betrothed woman was spoken of as the man?s wife, though, of course, he could not have relations with her until they actually were married. (Gen. 29:21; Matt. 1:18, 19) The engaged woman had a legal standing different from an unengaged virgin. (Ex. 22:16, 17; Deut. 22:23-29) This highlights the importance of the engaged state.

    Are there, though, any things that would justify the one-sided breaking of an engagement? It would be a very rare situation that would justify a mature Christian?s one-sidedly doing so. Fraud or concealment of vital facts might justify ending an engagement. Let us give two examples: A woman deliberately concealed the fact that she was not Scripturally free to marry, and she accepted the proposal of a man who had made limited inquiry about her marital state. If later he learned that she was not yet in position to marry, he would be justified in canceling the engagement. In fact, he would be Scripturally obliged to do so. (Matt. 5:32) Or if a man willfully lied to cover facts so that a woman would accept his proposal, her learning of the facts and of his lying might lead her to end the engagement. (Col. 3:9) In these cases, the spiritually older men responsible to guard the moral purity of the Christian congregation would want to know of such dishonesty so steps could be taken to protect other Christians.

    In other cases, where a valid reason does not exist, the one-sided breaking of an engagement would indicate instability and immaturity. Obviously, that sort of person could not be put before the congregation as an example of Christian maturity. If a male in the Christian congregation did this, he would not qualify for responsibilities in the congregation. Overseers and ministerial servants are to be "free from accusation," and this one would hardly be that. (1 Tim. 3:10) If he does not know his own mind and cannot honor his word in regard to marriage, will he be able to do so in other matters? He needs to grow to maturity....................................................................

    Englishman.

  • Simon
    Simon

    If they are being viewed as good as married then why the prohibition on premarital sex?

    Not sleeping around makes sense but the wierd combination of dedicated but not dedicated doesn't.

    They confuse the legal marriage arrangement in western countries with "being married" as in chosing a mate and dedicating yourself to them.

  • little1
    little1

    WOW! That's heavy! I always wondered how, if dating - which as I see it is a time to get to know someone-isn't allowed unless you intend to marry, then how do JWs get to know someone enough to want to or not want to marry them? Seems like a catch-22 to me.

  • betty boop
    betty boop

    Just another form of mind control from the Borg..My friend was engaged to some guy who lived over seas who came to NY and they met and continued a long distance relationship (usually a bad idea) Then after they got engaged he found out she had lost her virginity while she was "wordly" and she was prolly like 15 which was 10 years prior to them meeting. He made a big stink about it an broke it off and she got in trouble for lying. In reality it was withholding information from him. I guess he thought that on their first date she woulda been like hmmm what a nice restaurant and nice weather,,,By the way my cherry was popped a looooong time ago..Is that ok?

    Stupid Stupid Stupid!!!!!

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    So if you're an elder - you've blown it!

    In other cases, where a valid reason does not exist, the one-sided breaking of an engagement would indicate instability and immaturity. Obviously, that sort of person could not be put before the congregation as an example of Christian maturity. If a male in the Christian congregation did this, he would not qualify for responsibilities in the congregation. Overseers and ministerial servants are to be "free from accusation," and this one would hardly be that.

    Englishman.

  • Lehaa
    Lehaa

    I suppose it depends, again, on the elders in the cogregation and the parents of the engaged couple.

    Although I've never herd of there being a comittee about it. I know of plenty of JW who have caled off engagements and there has never been a problem.

    My parents always told me that untill you say I do then it was never to late to call the whole thing off. Both my parents were in the truth.

    If they are being viewed as good as married then why the prohibition on premarital sex?

    I'm with Simon on this one, if yo can't call it off then why can't you have sex. Definately would have made the time I was engaged a lot easier, for one no chaperones.

  • dorothy
    dorothy

    What a load of crap! A dubbie in my hall just called off a wedding and he's still highly respected! I guess it depends which family you're from...

  • Freedom Fighter
    Freedom Fighter

    Yeah - I don't think this is standard practice across Dubdom. In my old KH there was a couple from well respected families who broke off their engagement, nothing was said. It must vary from place to place depending on how strict your congregation is.

  • clarity
    clarity

    bttt

  • No Room For George
    No Room For George

    To be fair, that QFR was from 1968 and as an avid fan of Mad Men, people did and believed all kinds of crazy stuff back then. I don't think the WT would print something like this today, although.........

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