Or similar questions by the elders? Were you asked something similar and how did you answer?Why do you ask?Do you?Blondie
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| blondie | Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
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| confusedjw | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
One response could be:"I've always struggled at feeling worthy of being called a Witness of Jehovah, even when I was doing more. I know you'll understand when I say that I can't talk about this as it is too upsetting for me." | ||
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| blondie | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
Sorry confusedjw, the important thing to remember it is more important to consider yourself a Christian.I am just looking for responses that will deflect the elders and not put a current JW in judicial hot water.(hugs)Blondie | ||
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| confusedjw | Re: Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
Thank you Blondie - I was just editing my first post as I realized it sounded like I was making a comment on my current condition and not offering a "you could say".....and we cross posted.But thanks for th HUG! | ||
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| Abaddon | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
AH, that's similar old pivot point of my last JC.You see, because I have family in the Borg, I decided not to DA myself and to try and avoid Dfing, as it would have left the situation more open to cultish programmed behaviour on part of my family.I admitted (after about eight months of not going to meetings) to adultery. Queue the JC. I said I regretted it. They said come back to the meetings. I said I didn't feel ready for that at that point. They said that unless I showed repentence they'd DF me. I pointed out the WT article where it more-or-less states that if you're inactive for over six months you can't really call yourself a JW anymore (as you're not Witnessesing), and that if I wasn't a JW they couldn't really DF me.I think if the combined IQ of the three men had been over 200 I'd have ended up DF'd anyway. But it wasn't. | ||
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| FMZ | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
Here is one that really helped me (Karo syrup and a little food coloring go a looong way): Elder: "So, Keith, do you consider yourself one of Jehovah's Witnesses?"Me: "No, I cannot conscientiously do that until I get something off my chest"Elder: "What would you like to get it off your chest?"Me: "My skin." <takes out a knife rigged with a bulb of fake blood, and starts slicing at his chest>Elder: <vomits> Would never happen, but would get a great rise out of the elder!FMZ | ||
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| NeonMadman | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
Elder: "What would you like to get it off your chest?"
Me: "My skin." <takes out a knife rigged with a bulb of fake blood, and starts slicing at his chest>
Elder: <vomits> Dude, you been watching WAY too many splatter films!!!![]() | ||
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| FMZ | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
lmao... funny you should say that... I've been really into splatterfest movies lately... my favorites being the Evil Dead series.FMZ | ||
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| Mulan | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
One did ask me that about a year and a half ago. I said "Do you think of us as one of Jehovah's witnesses?" He said "yes" and the other elder said "no".So, I said............"why did it take you so many years to check on us, if you think of us as JW's". To the other one I said "if you don't think of us as JW's, then why are you here?"We still aren't df'd. | ||
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| little witch | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
Mulan,That was brilliant! | ||
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| blondie | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
EXCELLENT, Mulan!One for the Hot Files. Blondie | ||
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| pratt1 | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
I do not consider myself an active JW, however, I will admit that I still carry a lot of baggage from my experience as a JW and it's been difficult to separate my own independent thinking from JW group think. | ||
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| Atilla | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
Perhaps, you could say that you are th King of the North and that you have an army to lead. Then they just might thing you are crazy and leave you alone. | ||
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| blondie | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
I might clarify that these would be answers you could give the elders that would not lead to being DF'd or being interpreted as your DA'ing yourself, being able to maintain that ambiguous status of inactive.Blondie | ||
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| ozziepost | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
I don't think there'd be a long list!I like Mulan's rejoinder. Just brilliant!Cheers, Ozzie | ||
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| Nina | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
My planned response was going to be: "Are you suggesting that I am not?"Mulan's is much, MUCH better!!!Nina | ||
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| run dont walk | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
No | ||
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| Blueblades | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
Blondie,In short I don't have the articles anymore, however they say that those who choose to walk away quietly are to be left alone.Also, those who are inactive are still considered to belong to the congregation under the care of the Elders and are still part of God's flock,sheep in his fold.And are in this context STILL one of JW'S.So, the question could be answered with either article cited to the Elders, as they will have to see it in print for themselves from the Society and therefore could not take any action against you.But rather it would place a responsibility to nurture and care for you,something they are not willing to do,ie.time effort work for you etc.So they will just leave you alone.Blueblades | ||
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| franklin J | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
experience has taught me the following:....." of course I love Jehovah and consider myself a witness ....I am going through a low spiritual time"; that will get them off your back..I have learned from personal experience that you will not win any confrontations-so do not waste your time. Tell them what they want to hear and plan a slow exit. Keep your distance from them and always "have other plans" if they try to schedule a meeting with you. If they come to your door unnannounced simple say " bad time" and close the door.It worked for me until they decided to come after me with Judicial meetings about "drugs" and "fornication" ( totally fabricated). So I hired a lawyer and began a harrassment suit (not against Watchtower; against the elders personally). They backed off fast. I suppose I followed President Teddy Roosevelts advice to " talk softly and carry a big stick". | ||
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| uriah | Re: Answers to elders who ask " Do you consider yourself one of JWs" | |
I Agree with franklins statement. You will not win. They are convinced that they are right and you are wrong. Just go and see the e-watchman board. Talk about head in the sand.
I have found it best to say what they want. It appears that they do not see through the subterfuge and are happy to go away with what you tell them. I would be thinking, Hey this guy's trying to pull a fast one. I'll ask some more searching questions..' but they don't. Still, I can remember being just as blind and marking down a house, when on FM, as mine when the emcumbents (who said p -orf) were transmogrified into manure at the big A. | ||
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