Although I don't have as much formal training as Tina, I do have enough of it to say that I would have to agree with Tina that you are definitely controlling and manipulative, Jan. The lengths I have seen you go to in order to sidestep your culpability in the issue of your email list just proves my point. A person in need of help never sees themselves as such. I wouldn't classify us as "sharks". I would classify us as women who are courageous enough to stand up to a bully, publicly. A passive/agressive bully, to be sure, but a bully still nonetheless.RCat
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