Did anyone watch Dr. Phil yesterday?They were talking about addictions, sex, pills, food - things that start out small, easily hidden, even socially acceptable - but then get out of hand and start controlling you. Then it becomes destructive, counter-productive and life threatening. The addict protects this addiction to the detriment of loved ones, logic, and most things good.It reminded me of the way most JWs act - especially when put on the spot with an opposer, unbeliever, or out-right apostate.It also reminded me of this list ...."When God Becomes a Drug" by Father Leo BoothThe symptoms of religious addiction: Inability to think, doubt, or question information or authority Black-and-white simplistic thinking Shame-based belief that you aren't good enough, or you aren't doing it 'right' Magical thinking that God will fix you Scrupulousity: rigid, obsessive adherence to rules, codes of ethics, or guidelines Uncompromising, judgmental attitudes Compulsive praying, going to church or crusades, quoting scripture Unrealistic financial contributions Believing that sex is dirty-that our bodies and physical pleasures are evil Compulsive overeating or excessive fasting Conflict with science, medicine, and education Progressive detachment from the real world, isolation, breakdown of relationships Psychosomatic illnesses: sleeplessness, back pains, headaches, hypertension Manipulating scripture or texts, feeling chosen, claiming to receive special messages from God Trancelike state or religious high, wearing a glazed happy face Cries for help; mental, emotional, physical breakdown; hospitalizationRemind you of anyone?Will
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| Will Power | When God becomes a Drug | |
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| stillajwexelder | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
Reminds me a little of the WTBTS | ||
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| Scully | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
I watched Dr Phil's show yesterday too, and I was thinking pretty much the same thing, especially when he was talking to the first couple about the incident about when the wife was in rehab she phoned her husband begging him to bring her "just one vicodin" and the husband did as she asked. It reminded me of the stories we'd hear about JWs in prison having a page of a WT magazine smuggled into them to help them keep their faith. I loved the way Dr Phil asked the husband: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING? It would be interesting to see Dr Phil do a show about religious addiction and deprogramming from a cult or high control religion.Love, Scully | ||
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| Strawberryfieldsforever | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
Reminds me of my MOTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]() | ||
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| Scully | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
The other thing that struck me about this couple was when Dr Phil told the woman"Your WHOLE LIFE is a LIE." Dr Phil told her that her whole life was constructed around the lie that she was living and that she was dragging her husband and children into it as well, and getting them to enable her addiction.Right away, I made a connection between the teachings of the WTS which are not based in truth, but are called The Truth?, and how a JW's whole life has to totally be constructed around those lies. They are told not to believe anything that anyone outside might tell them, especially not Apostates?. The WTS supports individual JWs in their religious addiction, the way a drug dealer supports a junkie who is looking for their next fix. JWs will | ||
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| cruzanheart | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
Me too. I read it years ago, when I was still going to meetings, and I think that along with what I witnessed Big Tex going through planted the seeds of doubt and independence from the Borg. I may have to read it again . . .Nina | ||
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| got my forty homey? | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
Sounds like my next door neighbor Stupid Flanders.okily dokily! | ||
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| ThiChi | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
The symptoms of Secular addiction:Inability to think, doubt, or question information or authority Black-and-white simplistic thinking Shame-based belief if you believe in God or Values Magical thinking that you will fix you Scrupulousity: rigid, obsessive adherence to rules, codes of ethics, or guidelines like Marxism Uncompromising, judgmental attitudes Compulsive praying to the state, going to sporting events, quoting dogma Unrealistic financial contributions Believing that any type of sex is ok that our bodies and physical pleasures have no rules or consequences Compulsive overeating or excessive fasting or Drinking Conflict with truth Progressive detachment from the real world, isolation, breakdown of relationships Psychosomatic illnesses: sleeplessness, back pains, headaches, hypertension Manipulating facts or texts, feeling chosen, claiming to receive special messages from Ted Kennedy Trancelike state or getting high, wearing a glazed happy face Cries for help; mental, emotional, physical breakdown; hospitalization Remind you of anyone? | ||
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| Will Power | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
OMG ScullyThis is the pain I live with, watching the relationship with my husband go from bad but salvagable to worse and impossible. I realize the stage was set "before conversion" but after the fact makes therapy, etc pretty much impossible.Not impossible of course if I turn a blind eye to the destructive pusher. I've tried as best I could for about 4 years now, but the last ties have been severed, even when I try & think that I'm only talking to a disease. - the disease is the surrender of independant thought - that eventually destroys relationships, love, trust, morale.The pimps win.Thank you Scully. Sometimes it is hard to put into words. | ||
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| 2escaped lifers | Re: When God becomes a Drug | |
The glazed happy faced thing rings a bell ..... ![]() | ||
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WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING? It would be interesting to see Dr Phil do a show about religious addiction and deprogramming from a cult or high control religion.
