In Orange City, Volusia County Florida, 3 members of the Negron family were found murdered in their home in a quiet neighborhood, unknown for any violence. They were active JWs, even hosting meetings in their home. The Witness community is in disbelief.http://www.orlandosentinel.com/ Scroll down to "Bodies discovered in Orange City"
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| Kenneson | 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
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| Gopher | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
By Amy C. Rippel and David A. Collins | Sentinel Staff Writers Posted December 2, 2003, 7:32 AM EST ORANGE CITY -- Volusia County investigators said a mother and her two sons who were found dead inside a small home in a quiet neighborhood Monday night are homicide victims. Investigators said they found signs of a struggle in the home at 765 Biscayne Drive in the Breezewood Park subdivision just south of Orange City. Carmen Negron, 63, and her two sons, Gilberto Vergara-Negron, 28, and Yamir Orlando Vergara-Negron, 26, were found dead in the home. "This is the kind of stuff you don't think about happening in Orange City, just in bigger cities," said Hector Rivera, 19, who said he was the victims' cousin. "Everybody is freaked out about it." About 7:30 p.m. Monday, the three bodies were found inside the home by a friend or a passer-by, investigators said. Authorities said they are looking for a 1995 white Honda Civic DX, with license-plate number IR061B, that is associated with one of the victims, sheriff's officials said. According to records, the car belongs to Carmen Negron. The car was last seen Sunday. Many people standing outside the home, which was surrounded by crime scene tape, said the people who lived there were very religious with strong ties to the Jehovah's Witnesses church. Gabriel Torres, a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses Kingdom Hall in DeBary, said he knew the family who lived in the home. "They were a very humble family. All they did and all we do is serve Jehovah," he said. Mike Gonzalez, 59, who lives a few blocks away and jogs by their house frequently, saw Negron just the other day while she was doing yard work. He said she has lived there with her sons for about seven years. "We've never had anything like this in the neighborhood. They're quiet, they're very nice, they don't drink or smoke or anything like that. How could that happen?" he said. "This is a tragedy. These people don't bother anybody." Susan Pirolo, 36, who lives in the neighborhood, said the community has always been quiet. Pirolo said she didn't notice anything unusual at the home in the past few days. On Mondays, the family hosted church gatherings at the house. "There's no crime in this neighborhood," she said. "None. This is an old neighborhood," Pirolo said. "We watch each other's houses." Charlene Hager-Van Dyke of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Amy C. Rippel can be reached at arippel@orlandosentinel.com or 407-420-5736. David A. Collins can be reached at dcollins@orlandosentinel.com or 386-851-7922. | ||
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| Gopher | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
This is so sad for the family involved. The non-JW's quoted commented on the human tragedy that occurred. Gabriel Torres (the JW) just had to take advantage of this tragedy to give a "witness" (all we do is serve Jehovah).
The deaths are tragic and the lives of those who perished should not be reduced to a shallow "all they did was witness". | ||
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| fran | Re: Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
This is terrible news So sorry about this.In my town a couple of years ago a whole family was killed (non JW)it shook everyone for the family were well liked too. | ||
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| blondie | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
The one neighbor says they watch each other's houses. I vote for someone who is normally seen in the area, neighbor, friend, family member as the perpetrator.Blondie | ||
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| Will Power | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
Terrible thing.There seems to be no mention of a husband or father.wp | ||
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| detective | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
Not to in any way take away from the tragedy but I have to take exception to this neighbor's statement: They're quiet, they're very nice, they don't drink or smoke or anything like that. How could that happen?" he said. "This is a tragedy. These people don't bother anybody." Yes, because if they had enjoyed a marlboro light over a can of schlitz, then the fact that they were murdered might somehow make sense. Sounds to me like this particular neighbor may be an unsung supporter of the witnesses as well seeing as how he seems to think that the lack of drinking or smoking somehow proves to be an indicator of...I'm sorry... what? my version:They're quiet, they're very nice, they don't eat meat or vote democrat or anything like that. How could that happen?" he said. "This is a tragedy. These people don't bother anybody." (sorry, pet peeve). More important though, I feel it is quite sad that these 3 lives were extinguished. | ||
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| ballistic | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
Detective, just to take up Devil's advocate with you for a minute, he may have meant, they don't drink or smoke, and by implication, do hard drugs which are often not far behind crime. | ||
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| Wolfgirl | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
How sad.  This is so sad for the family involved. The non-JW's quoted commented on the human tragedy that occurred. Gabriel Torres (the JW) just had to take advantage of this tragedy to give a "witness" (all we do is serve Jehovah). I was thinking the exact same thing. | ||
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| detective | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
I see your point ballistic but it's such a leap for this man to make. Seriously, I can't imagine even thinking "well, ballistic had a couple pints at that party last weekend- therefore his murder isn't entirely unexpected".
I could see, perhaps, thinking "I'm surprised Johnny had that heart attack as he was often working out at the gym". There is, at least in passing, some possible connection between physical fitness and the element of surprise when a death is attributed to something that could be perceived as a result of lack of physical fitness such as a heart attack. Or, alternatively, I could see saying "I'm surprised Bobby died from Cirrohsis of the liver as he never even drank alcohol. However, there is absolutely no reasonable link between having a glass of wine and a smoke and murder.
So, my thought is that this man is using faulty identifiers as to who, on some level, "deserves" to be murdered. Bear with me on that "deserves" thing but I think you get what I'm saying. He has criminalized or demoralized two legal activties (drinking & smoking) as if they could possibly be a litmus test for good or evil ("deserving of death" or "undeserving" of death). Which is why, although he is not identified as a JW in the article, I'm putting money on the fact that he is either a JW, a study, or a sympathizer. Either way, I still think he's making a huge leap and using poor logic.
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| Elsewhere | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
It's sad that the news papers do not cover all the people the WTS "kills" through shunning. | ||
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| Carmel | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
If they "never bothered anyone", does that mean they quit going door-to-door? carmel | ||
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| RubyTuesday | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
How does he know if they never bothered anyone.Just because they seem like nice people , doesn't mean they are. I would like to know what the motive is, then I will decide if I feel sorry for them. | ||
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| SheilaM | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
That is horrible that any family is murdered. I hope they find the perpetrator I think Blondie is righ | ||
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| Billygoat | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
It's sad that the news papers do not cover all the people the WTS "kills" through shunning. Sad, but true! If they "never bothered anyone", does that mean they quit going door-to-door?
carmel Hahaha! | ||
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| RubyTuesday | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
Yeah...it would have been so "horrible" if the Manson family had been murdered  | ||
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| hawaiiandays | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
The article said there had been an assault reported there. Their photos look more like mugshots of drug dealers. | ||
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| ignored_one | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
I have to admit their photos are a little odd. Normally if someone had been murdered I would have expected to see a nice photo of them, you know smiling at a family outing or something. Those ones look like something pulled out of the police computer.And I think you're right about the neighbour. Very odd thing for a non-witness to say. And trust the local JW to have to comment on how great they were at serving the -Ignored One. | ||
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| SheilaM | Re: 3 Jehovah's Witnesses Found Murdered | |
Gee I hope no one else thought I meant the Manson family. I mean that sure isnt' the first thing that comes to mind when I think of family.
The photo's are strange they look like passport photos or worse Drivers license photos. | ||
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