To be honest, I feel like I barely qualify as an ex-dub. Wasn't raised in it, no relatives in it, and aside from my first one or two years of being involved with it, I didn't believe much of it. But at the point where I first started having doubts creep in, instead of investigating those doubts, I turned off my brain. Because I needed the structure and community so badly. I'm sure the endless "don't question" propaganda coming out of Brooklyn was a contributing factor also. I regret so much those years of mental atrophy. I stopped caring about things, I lost my natural intellectual curiosity, I just wanted Armageddon to come and obliterate everything. Well, Armageddon never came, just like it never came for ol' Charlie Russell.I needed JWism. I probably would have taken my own life or gone completely crazy had I not found something like JWism to latch onto. But it was only a mask, it didn't really address what ailed me. And I don't know that what ails me is curable, I am not the most together guy, not by a long shot. I think that people find me to be odd, hostile, immature, paranoid, hyper, and they are probably right. I'm seeing a great counselor though, so it's two steps forward, one back, two forward, one back. I think that I could be a good guy. I hope the potential is there for me to be a nuanced, mature adult. I hope this mad mad world gives me a few years of life to atone for my wasted years.I think that I've sought an identity in the ex-jw community, which makes my involvement with this board somewhat pathological. It's the same old sh*t basically. Just like how I was so anxious to be a "hood" back in high school (the ciggy & pot smoking, heavy metal crowd were known as hoods, short for hoodlum I guess). I idealized the hoods, I thought that they were clearly superior to any other clique that existed. I wanted so bad to be one of the central figures in the hood crowd. It never happened. Then after some unsavory experiences it began to dawn on me that the hoods were more screwed up than anybody. Not too many years later I would make the same mistake with JW's. And here I am on this board, up to almost 1800 posts, wanting so much to be one of the Stinkypantz or LittleToes or AlanF's of this board, yet I know that I could quit posting tomorrow and very few would notice I was gone.So, while this probably isn't goodbye, I think I need scale back the amount of time I spend here waayyy back, and unless I make some sort of announcement to that effect like the one I'm making now, I'll find myself spending hours here that I could be spending on more beneficial things like watching South Park.BYE!
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| DanTheMan | some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
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| Brummie | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Gee Dan, didnt know you were feeling like this. FWIW I have always thought you were a very valuble & intelligent poster on this board. The fact that you are an individual here is to be more prized than being one in a "clique" and just like the others. You fit in great here in a group but you also fit in just as well as an individual. Its good to hear you are seeing a good counsellor, hopefully they will help you to realise that you are a valuble person, whether individually or in a group. I think its a good idea to find other things to do and broaden your horizens. Take care, and up the postings rather than dropping themBrumie | ||
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| Xena | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
I have always enjoyed your posts also Dan. You give a unique persepective dispite the fact that you refuse to own a cat . I'm glad to hear that you are moving forward but hope that you will continue to be a part of our rather large disfunctional family. ![]() | ||
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| myself | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Dan, your thoughts and reflections were very important. Why would you want to be recognized as the status of another poster. Dan you must appreciate yourself, other things will then fall into place.You don't think you would be missed????...ok so I haven't told you that you got me totally addicted to Super Collapse, hey I made it to over 7 million points Seriously, I hope you will stay around. I took some time off because I had to help set up a business and to get some things accomplished. I would check in and read for a few minutes here. No the board didn't cease because I wasn't here. I didn't catch any topics asking about me...but you know.... it didn't matter. I am here for me and because there are others here that I care about. I can also say that I didn't take the time to check on the whereabouts of other posters, hmmm maybe that will be my next project. | ||
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| talesin | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
DanYou make a valuable contribution to the board, IMHO. Why compare yourself to others? Don't leave. Xena dispite the fact that you refuse to own a cat . Shocking! What shall we do with him? Dan, could you PLEASE reconsider this - how CAN you be kitty-negative?!!!t ![]() | ||
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| StinkyPantz | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
DTM-I appreciate you. . that's all that really matters, right? Okay, maybe not. . . but shoot, we all feel like you do sometimes. Underacheived (is that a word), under-appreciated. . . But I gotta tell ya something. . .I recall your name being mentioned each time one of those "who's your favorite poster" popularity contest threads are started. I realize that your words weren't just referring to JWD only, but hey, you ARE appreciated around here, and you better not go anywhere or I'll give you a spankin'. I am sick of good people leaving!
I think that people find me to be odd, hostile, immature, paranoid, hyper, and they are probably right. The above quote is SO me!!! Ya know, we'd probably be best buddies!! I do agree that something is wrong with you though for the following comment:
And here I am on this board. . . . wanting so much to be one of the Stinkypantz or LittleToes or AlanF's of this board Do you realize that you are totally insulting Lil Toe and AlanF two very sexy. . I mean intelligent guys, by even putting me in the same sentence as them? I am not worthy. Why would you wanna be an argumentative, faithless black woman? Hehehe. . but I will admit I am flattered. . . and I am pretty sure I love you.Editted to add: hey if you have IM, will you add me? voicesnmyhead@hotmail.com and StinkyPantz12345 on yahoo and aol | ||
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| onacruse | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Dan, your posts are always thought-provoking, as was the conversation we had a couple months ago...I gained perspectives from you that even today (re: a recent thread) are proving relevant and valuable.
Your analogy to "the hoods" is another example of that: From where do we derive true self-worth? By being a high-profile member of some "hood" (whatever that group might be)? By being a misfit and rebel? By being a non-participant in society? (Rhetorical questions, because you obviously already know the answer. )
In the ebb and flow of this db, it seems like pretty much everybody has spurts of activity, and periods of quiessence. I hope you keep poking around here and jump in now and then. If you like, perhaps we can talk again soon? I'd certainly enjoy that.
Craig | ||
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| Robdar | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Dan, You are not the only one who feels the way that you do. We all have our moments of doubt and we have all been hurt from the tyranny of the WT org. That is why we are here. That is why we need you here. It doesn't matter how long you were a JW; 2 years, 20 years. Because of our experiences, you and I and all of us have decided to fight against what we know to be false. Your's is one of the many voices that gives us unity and strength to keep fighting for the truth. Your voice gives this forum power.If you must leave, don't stay gone too long. Your responses will be missed. I was going to say that your "comments will be missed" but "comments" felt like too much of a JW thing to say. Take care,Robyn | ||
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| LittleToe | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
And here I am on this board, up to almost 1800 posts, wanting so much to be one of the Stinkypantz or LittleToes or AlanF's of this board, yet I know that I could quit posting tomorrow and very few would notice I was gone. Gawd, low aspirations, or what!!!You need a confidence injection, my friend. Besides, I don't know how I managed to get into a mixed bag with SP and Alan - that's one "menage au trois" that bears no lengthy consideration FWIW I always read your posts and enjoy them immensely.Unfortunately I couldn't get to Joy's for the Fest that you attended, but from what I hear you're a lovely guy. I heard that from folks that I trust the opinion of, btw. Volleyball would have been on the agenda, methinks.Now get out there and post another 1800 - you're nearly catching me up!!! | ||
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| refiners fire | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Dan. Personally I think you are one of the boards GREAT posters. I always read your stuff as soon as I see you post. Your personal analysis and picking apart of yourself, well, frankly, they remind me of me when I was younger. You have nothing to fear, you have already made it. | ||
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| xjw_b12 | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Yeah, what Refiners Fire said, bout sums it up I think. Take care Brother Ohio. | ||
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| DanTheMan | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Gee y'all, I'm so touched! Really, thanks, I didn't know that anybody paid attention to or looked forward to my posts.I guess my paranoia is getting the best of me here. I have these imaginings that people on this board PM each other: "don't you think DTM is such a weirdo?" LOLStinky and Littletoe, the reason I mentioned your names was because it seems to me that you guys could start a thread titled "how do you feel about fart smell" or something and you'd get 10 pages of responses! But, that's a good thing, we all fill our little niche here.Well, now that it's morning and I'm in a better mood, I'm thinking that I'll probably just scale my participation back here a little, not a lot, with school starting Wednesday I won't have much choice. As I'm sure you all have experienced, time flies when you're on JWD. I've come here so many times thinking, OK, I'll just do a quick check to see if there's any threads that interest me, only to get locked on here for 3 hours or something. Once again, thanks for your comments, I needed that boost! | ||
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| StinkyPantz | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
DTM- I have these imaginings that people on this board PM each other: "don't you think DTM is such a weirdo?" Dude, I SO do that. . . . ![]() Stinky and Littletoe, the reason I mentioned your names was because it seems to me that you guys could start a thread titled "how do you feel about fart smell" or something and you'd get 10 pages of responses! My thread about "fart smell" only got up to like 8 pages. . . besides. . I thought you clumped us together because of our stellar good looks and incredible style. . ----
Anyways, I'm glad you are feeling better this morning. . .it makes me feel better. . I don't even know you but I was concerned. My email and IM are open if you ever want to talk.
LT-I don't know how I managed to get into a mixed bag with SP and Alan - that's one "menage au trois" that bears no lengthy consideration Consider it a privilege!!!![]() | ||
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| lisavegas420 | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Hi Dan,I can relate to what you are said it was only a mask I feel the same way, I never fit in as a JW (even though I was raised in 'it') and I never fit in as a "worldly". When I found this board I did what I do with everything in my life. I slip in and start hanging out, in the background, so later if it starts not working any longer for me, I can just as easily as I snuck in the back door, I can slip out un-noticed. I just keep wearing the mask, and no one will notice that I don't have it together. This is a good idea..I think I need scale back the amount of time I spend here waayyy back, and unless I make some sort of announcement to that effect like the one I'm making now, I'll find myself spending hours here that I could be spending on more beneficial things like watching South Park.. or you could get out and meet people that you have things other than JWism in common with you. But don't abandon us. Everytime someone says that they are leaving, I feel this sick feeling deep inside my stomache. Having met you in person, I never thought...people find me to be odd, hostile, immature, paranoid, hyper, and they are probably right. well maybe the paranoid part...hehehe Hugs,Lisa | ||
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| smack | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
sheesh Dan YOu is a jedi. One day I'll get there too Steve ![]() | ||
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| Prisca | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
I have these imaginings that people on this board PM each other: "don't you think DTM is such a weirdo?" LOL Don't imagine it, it's true!!!! Nah, I'm only kidding. The times your name has been mentioned it's always in a positive way Please don't be a stranger to the board. Everyone contributes in their own special way, and I have always enjoyed reading your posts.Good luck with school and everything you want to accomplish. ![]() ![]() | ||
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| caspian | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Take care mate, there are more here who care for than you realize Cas | ||
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| chester | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Dan,I don't post much but I read a lot. I always read your posts and always enjoy reading them.I hope you don't decide to leave. Take a break if you must.Best regards,ChesterI sent you a PM | ||
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| SixofNine | Re: some unimportant random thoughts & reflections | |
Besides, I don't know how I managed to get into a mixed bag with SP and Alan - that's one "menage au trois" that bears no lengthy consideration I have a feeling that Xena might beg to differ, LT. ![]() ![]() | ||
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. I'm glad to hear that you are moving forward but hope that you will continue to be a part of our rather large disfunctional family. 
Seriously, I hope you will stay around. I took some time off because I had to help set up a business and to get some things accomplished. I would check in and read for a few minutes here. No the board didn't cease because I wasn't here. I didn't catch any topics asking about me...but you know.... it didn't matter. I am here for me and because there are others here that I care about. I can also say that I didn't take the time to check on the whereabouts of other posters, hmmm maybe that will be my next project.
What shall we do with him? Dan, could you PLEASE reconsider this - how CAN you be kitty-negative?!!!t 
But I gotta tell ya something. . .I recall your name being mentioned each time one of those "who's your favorite poster" popularity contest threads are started. I realize that your words weren't just referring to JWD only, but hey, you ARE appreciated around here, and you better not go anywhere or I'll give you a spankin'. I am sick of good people leaving!
If you like, perhaps we can talk again soon? I'd certainly enjoy that.
Craig
FWIW I always read your posts and enjoy them immensely.
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Anyways, I'm glad you are feeling better this morning. . .it makes me feel better. . I don't even know you but I was concerned. My email and IM are open if you ever want to talk.
LT-

Nah, I'm only kidding. The times your name has been mentioned it's always in a positive way
Please don't be a stranger to the board. Everyone contributes in their own special way, and I have always enjoyed reading your posts.Good luck with school and everything you want to accomplish. 
