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JanHI agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper Place!
Like LoneWolf, I am much dismayed at the haughty nature of many women on this site. What is this world coming to, when women don’t know their correct position in subjection to men?

Thankfully, God’s Channel of Communication to Mankind (tm, patent pending) have always been aware of the matter and addresses the respective positions of men and women. Hopefully, the independent-minded women here will take to heart this advice.

In finding a wordly authority that really understands womens' proper position, they explained what this independence leads to:
*** w56 10/15 639 Man's Rightful Role ***
Describing the plight of many of today’s families, the psychiatrist said: “When man abdicated his responsibility in the home he forced his wife into a position of leadership for which she is not prepared. At the same time, the male children were deprived of paternal supervision. This too frequently results in weak, passive males inadequate to take over the leadership in the home because they never learn independence of female leadership.”

Women should by now realize that they are not only responsible for their own faults, but for the faults of men as well.

This especially applies when poor mislead men (obviously resulting from being dominated by women) commits rape. Look how horrible some women behave, by not staying put in the kitchen as they’re supposed to:
*** g73 2/8 30-1 Watching the World ***
Hitchhiking Crimes
* Hitchhiking is connected with many crimes in the U.S. Minneapolis has about eight serious hitchhiking incidents in a year; Los Angeles about three per day. Women appear to be one fourth of the hitchhiking population now; as a result, more sex crimes are involved. A police captain in Maryland says female hitchhikers “practically invite rape.” In 1971 in Los Angeles 22 percent of all rapes and 4.7 percent of all robberies were connected with hitchhiking. Neither offending drivers nor riders fit one pattern of dress or behavior.

And when this has happened, it is always the woman’s fault if she is raped, because it’s her duty to risk life and health to protect her all-important chastity (if he then commits necrophilia, she bears no guilt for this):
*** g84 2/22 24 They Resisted Rapists ***
At times they have a weapon and threaten to use it if the victim does not cooperate. Should a Christian quietly submit? No, the situation is not the same as when a man simply is asking for money or other material possessions. A woman wisely would give him these. But the rapist is asking a person to break God’s law by committing fornication. Under such circumstances a Christian is obligated to resist.—1 Corinthians 6:18. ‘But could not resistance be dangerous?’ someone may ask. Yes, it could be.

When a chaste woman is married to a God-fearing man, she should understand that she has become his property. And property often bears the mark of their owners. So also with wives:
*** km 3/79 4 Pioneers and Their Reports ***
* Married sisters should show “Mrs.” and then their husband’s first name on their monthly report cards (e.g., Mrs. John Witness). If someone else makes out the card for the pioneer, it would be appreciated if the pioneer would check to be sure that the name is correct.
* When single pioneer sisters marry, they should supply the Society with the husband’s first and last name and the date of the marriage. Thereafter they should list their name as requested in the preceding point.

Above all, she should realize her proper position in the relationship:
*** w56 9/1 525 The Divine Origin of Marriage ***
MARRIAGE is a close union between two parties. The main party to the marriage is called the husband. The other or lesser party to it is called the wife.

I hope that all women take this godly advice to heart, and hereafter continus to follow Brother LoneWolf’s advice to stay pretty (for their husband’s enjoyment) while ”showing discretion” by keeping themselves from criticizing the Men (Proverbs 11:22).


- Jan
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Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. [Ambrose Bierce, The Devil´s Dictionary, 1911]
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logicalRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Jan, out of those quotes from WTS magazines, only one has a scripture by it, misapplied.

Prove to me all that with scriptures then I will believe you.

Nice touch with Proverbs 11:22 though.
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JanHRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Hi logical,
Prove to me all that with scriptures then I will believe you.

You know the scripture about a woman being executed if she was raped in a city, and had not screamed, I assume.

Also, a husbond is "the woman's owner" all thru the OT.

One can, however, argue that the Bible doesn't really say the woman is the lesser of a marriage. But it seems pretty obvious, considering other statements, that this is implied.

- Jan
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outnfreeRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Gee, Jan H!

(who was writing all this tongue-in-cheek, logical)

All those years I filled out my time slips with MY OWN FIRST NAME and no indication of my married status!

I wonder when the "new light" came out on that? Never? Why didn't the elders who served as congregation secretaries "readjust me"?

LOL
outnfree
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JTRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Hey


i got blasted by the CO when he came for putting the name on the publishers card the wrong way.

i can't recall it exactly but it went something like this,

a sister got married and decided to use her last name as well as her husband name


James Thomas was her hubby

Yvette Johnson was hers

when she married she went by

Yvette Johnson-Thomas

so on her publisher record car i wrote her new name in

the co comes in and Blast me out of the water


he proceeds to show me the WT way- now being a Society Man at the time i was all ears

he takes a pioneer sisters card and in front of all the elders ask me to read what the society has written
well it goes sorta like this:

Ms James Thomas

so i tried to explain to him that this is how the sister was using her new married name
and he told me- THIS IS THE WAY THE SLAVE WANTS IT

so later on i spoke with CO in private about what the deal was-

and he pointed to me that it was a bad example for a sister not to drop her name and take her hubby name

also based on some English Proper ediqute it was to be listed as

Ms James Thomas

so once again women got the shaft

now my wife always hated the way sisters were treated

so she kept me in line and informed when it came to women issues

but sad to say most male jw dont give much credit to women in my opinion

james
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VeniceITRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
MOOOOOOOO
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RedhorseWomanRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Forgive me, O great ones, for I have grievously sinned. I have staunchly refused to become chattel to my husband. I frequently use only my first and last name (which I did change to my husband's name when I married, mainly because I didn't like my maiden name). I also frequently use the title of Ms. even though I'm married.

And.....oh, I am SO ashamed....my husband stays home, while I work. (sob)
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JAVARe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Hi Jan,

I knew there was something that attracted me to the cult I mean the Christian Witnesses of Jehovah! Jan, thank you for sharing these spiritual truths from the Faithful Slave. After much reflection and prayer, I think sisters in our cyber group should show proper respect to the God-ordained-male headship by wearing head coverings when posting to this forum. I have a modest example picked out for RedhourseWoman below:

--JAVA
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larcRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Brother Jan,

Thank you for that fine spiritual reminder. Some of the weak ones here have been back slidding into wordly thinking. I just wanted you to know that this has not happened in my household. My wife knows here place. We have discussed this many times. I make the important decisions, and she handles the minor ones. For example, I decide what we should do about fair trade with South America and our foriegn policy with China and Tiawan. She handles the minor matters, such as the house we live in, what kind of car we buy - little things like that.

JAVA,

Thank you for the picture of that wholesome sister. She sets a fine example. I think cowboy hats at the Hall will be a nice touch.

By the way, brother JAVA, would you like to join me at the Nutter Center this summer for a visit at the Assembly. If you did, it would double the number bearded ones in attendance. Two gray beards walking in at the same time might be too much for them. If we do go, I don't know if we should fortify ourselves with strong black coffee or strong dark beer.
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JTRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Java

it is truly good to see that you have accepted your wonderful and loving role of being in submission to God's arrangement as explained by his FDS

###smile

my wife always hated the way sisters were treated

we had this sister who had her PHD and one night she brought a fellow female Dr. to the bookstudy and the reg conductor was not there and some sad old bro had to conduct along with his sidekick reader
who could not read- she said it was the most embarrassing night in her life

her friend thought it was the most Ignorant thing she had ever seen

seh wanted to know why they could not use a female WHO COULD READ -READ

WELL YOU know the rest of the story as to why not


james
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wheelwithinwheelRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Lately a sister approached our local elders body to confess she was a thief. She had used her husbands ATM card to make a personal purchase without his knowledge.

Because the amount was under $10.00 we decided not to form a committee and try her for stealing and probably have to disfellowship her - but we did get the husband in and have her confess to him - then we suggested to him in private to study appropriate WT articles with his wife in their family study asking her to comment on the points enabling her to keep more spiritually strong.

What puzzles us elders is how this sister learned to use the ATM???
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FredhallRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Their proper place should be in the kitchen.
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JAVARe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Brother larc,

I would be happy to attend the district assembly with you this summer. I'll need more than coffee in order to refresh my soul. We can start off with some dark beer, and 15 minutes into the program I'll break out the whiskey. I'm not sure how we'll keep the JWs away from our stash; perhaps the beards will keep them away.

JT,

I wonder if the sister with a Ph.D. is still a Witness? Somehow, Ph.D and JW seems like an oxymoron.

--JAVA
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rizRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
WheelInTheSky,

Now that was funny.

riz

Insanity in individuals is something rare- but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule. - Nietzsche
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VeniceITRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Ok fine, I'm barefoot and in the kitchen, now what do you want to eat?

Venice
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JTRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
wheelnwheel says:

What puzzles us elders is how this sister learned to use the ATM???


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since i have been on the net i can honestly say some of your guys are some real SICK PUPPIES

BUT I LOVE IT- It is very sad when i think back to how you never could really joke or else you would not be viewed as a SERIOUS MINDED BRO-- how can we appoint a man who jokes all the time mindset

how sad


loved that post

james
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JTRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
jave asked


I wonder if the sister with a Ph.D. is still a Witness? Somehow, Ph.D and JW seems like an oxymoron.

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well yes she is and allow me to explain to you why- she is being used by the Society - literally speaking as well as figuratively

she flies all over the USA along with the boys in legal defending child custody cases where charges of the wt is a bad influence on the child type cases

she does it all at Pro-bono- Jah will repay me is what she told me oneday


almost 90% of her pratice involves JW- looking back now i used to think it was the greatest thing in the world to have a sister who could really understand the needs of a JW patient-


now it scares the hell out of me to think that she tells them to GO TO MORE MEETINGS AND OUT IN SERVICE AND RELY MORE ON JAH ARRANGEMENT aka Elders

so yes she is still in due to the High profile she has

she is always at bethel up at patterson so she is WITH THE IN CROWD

her very best friend is a female black lawyer named Carolyn Wah


some of you may know her very nice single sister

none of us LOW LIFE bethelites who worked in the factory were brave enough to make a STRONG MOVE ON HER , so we had this black bro William Bell who too was single and a lawyer
we used to tell him GO FOR IT MAN!!!!!!!

BUT he never made any strong moves on her

well it's bed time now --enough of old bethel stories - man i miss that place- i used to look forward to as Swingle would say

WATCH THE TWIN TOWERS FALL INTO THE EAST RIVER FROM THE BROOKLYN SIDE DOING THE GREAT AND FEAR INSPIRING DAY OF JAHOVAH


yea right!!!!!

james


"I'd rather have questions I can't answer than questions I can't ask (or answers I can't question)."
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DevilsAdvocate_DARe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
Larc,

Just wanted to say in behave of all us serious, responsible men,

THANKS.

DA
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peaceloveharmonyRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
dear brothers,

i come before you to beg for your forgiveness. i have overstepped my bounds, used my brain and expressed my own opinions. it won't happen again. please, please forgive me.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

love
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think41selfRe: I agree, LW: Women Should Know Their Proper...
LOL Jan,

What a hoot! It is sad that so many really believe that stuff. I never bought into it to that degree, but being raised a dub, I thought I knew what the woman's "proper position" was.

Then I escaped, and I learned there are a lot more "fun positions for women". And men. And men with women....ok, I think you get the idea:>

think41self, who knows "many positions"
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