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logansrun  What are the stages of walking away?

Well, it's been a good ten months since I walked away from the JWs and it's been quite a journey.  I notice that the initial fears, self-doubt and rage are no longer with me.  When I first left I could hardly look at a WT or Awake magazine without getting wave after wave of anxiety and frustration.  I would analyze over and over my decision to leave (although I never thought about going back, ever) and was in a deep depression.  Countless emails and phone calls to support groups etc. 

Over time all this eased up considerably.  Now, I don't really have any guilt feelings about leaving the Society.  When a JW snubs me on the street (yes, it's happened a couple of times) I don't wonder to myself if they might be right, I just think how incredibly ridiculous the whole religion is (it's amazing, actually).  I can look at and even read through WT and Awake articles without a twinge of my former thinking patterns. 

Better still, I feel that I am starting to rebuild aspects of my life -- moving beyond just tearing my old beliefs down.  I'm back in college, slowly making friends, and am cultivating my own "spirituality" (a mixture of existential philosophy, Taoism and evolutionary psychology).  I can think of the JWs with a balanced eye -- critical about many things, love for the people in it, and humor at much of it (yes, all of the Awake!). 

Still, there are peculiar feelings that crop up every now and then.  I know I am very well along in my recovery, but I am curious how others view their "recovery time" after the JWs.  Do you think there are different stages in exiting and making it in the real world?  What stage are you in?  How long did it take?  (sometimes I'm surprised at the rapidity of my recovery -- sometimes that scares me a little). 

Have a great weekend everybody

Bradley
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ballisticRe: What are the stages of walking away?

Your recovery and subsequent thoughts seem very similar to mine except I never had the net and took several years to "decide" it was not the truth and there was no going back.
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JHRe: What are the stages of walking away?

No one is the same, but in general, it takes lots of time to get over it.

It's like if you break up with your girl friend. Some will forget her right away, the moment they meet someone else, and others will remember her for years.

You seem to be coming on fine with your life. Keep on going to college, and build your future.  With the Jehovah witnesses, you aren't able to advance in life. They are waiting and waiting and waiting, losing their lives in the process.

 
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TheSilenceRe: What are the stages of walking away?

wow, thats pretty far along for 10 months, in my opinion.  i had nightmares for years after leaving. perhaps its the proactive steps youve taken, ie. college and developing your own beliefs.

jackie
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XenaRe: What are the stages of walking away?

I have been out gosh about 3 years now I guess...lol time flies when you are having fun   It took me some time to feel comfortable with my decision...and the consequences of it.  I no longer spend much time mourning my family members that shun me...I enjoy the newfound independance being my own person has made me...and am still working on my stunted social skills.

Funny I found when I first left the dubs I grasped at life with greedy hands, trying to make up for all that lost time.  I tend to savor it a bit more nowdays...enjoying it to the fullest, but no longer feeling the need to experience everything RIGHT NOW! 

lol JD it's nice not to have to wait for the "new system" to achieve the things you want to...and experience life, huh? 

 

 
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PistoffRe: What are the stages of walking away?

Congratulations; i still have one foot in the org, having immediate family there. I have been mentally done with it for at least 5 years, though I did not even realize it.  It had no power for me, and my real beliefs were coming out even as I sat in meetings.  I read Acts 15 and realized that the prohibition on blood was a dietary thing, and a mistake at that, an allowance made to the jewish converts. I stopped believing in df'ing when i saw so many people df'd who had been baptized while children;  I could go on and on, you get the idea.

The sex abuse scandal got me looking on the net, and that was that.  I feel sadness over the loss of a sense of close community, i guess, and it was so easy to not worry about anything going on in the world.

Nothing is as sweet, though, as the freedom of mind I now enjoy!
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Guest 77Re: What are the stages of walking away?

 

 

Everything takes time, your on a cruise, enjoy it. Enjoy your freedom and just keep building on what your heart leads you to do.

 

Guest 77
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czarofmischiefRe: What are the stages of walking away?

I like the breaking up with the girlfriend analogy. Sometimes, looking back, it seems better than it really was, and nostalgia is an evil trap.

But on the whole, my girlfriends never treated me as badly as the WT, and at least I got a little nookie from my girlfriends. Although I guess if the rumors about Ted are true...

CZAR
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onacruseRe: What are the stages of walking away?

Hi LR

As far as I've gone with it at this point, I'd have to agree with what many in this forum have said: in general, it depends on how long you were "in." One year out for every 5 years in, something like that.

For what formulas are worth.

I like the way J6 says it:
Everything takes time, your on a cruise, enjoy it. Enjoy your freedom and just keep building on what your heart leads you to do.
Craig
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ScoobyRe: What are the stages of walking away?
Maybe you can remember your first few months and how far you have come.  I'm in month two and I feel like throwing up daily.  Thanks for the hope.  Glad you are growing!!!!
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onacruseRe: What are the stages of walking away?

Scooby, welcome to the forum!
I'm in month two and I feel like throwing up daily.

When I joined this group last summer, I started laughing/crying/aching/laughing/crying in an almost non-stop cycle for close to a month. Also had a lot of anger venting.

It's not been an easy road, but wow...the scenery is getting better every day.

Craig
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logansrunRe: What are the stages of walking away?

Ah...something I didn't really mention is that I first started having intense doubts over two years ago (although there were little tunnels of doubt on and off for a few years before).  So there was close to a year and a half of inner struggles and well over 1,000 hours of critical research before my grand departure.  This was completely secret to everyone except my best friend who was having the same doubts.  For a few months I also vomited daily, although I think part of the problem was I was still outwardly a "good JW" and had to live a life with a mind in another place; the cognitive dissonance was incredible.  So my walking away was not a rash decision -- hell, it could be a matter of life or death!  Well, there came a point where I knew with a very, very high degree of probability that this just wasn't the truth.  I left almost immediately after that. 

The initial reaction was bad -- losing friends and family, coming out of the theological closet, etc.  I think after a good four months life started to shape up a bit (interestingly, the vomiting stopped within a few days of leaving).   Give it time, Scoopy. 

Bradley
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mouthyRe: What are the stages of walking away?
Bradley! great that you were able to get rid of alot so quickly- when they ousted me- there was no exjws that I knew off ( 1987) but something you mentioned that my advice would be a no-no ( for me anyway)You say you can read the WT & Awake ...But I learned that just like a alcholic has to stay away from the booze a cultist leaving should stay away from the writings. It has the Spirit of Deception!!! within those pages.... something you read my tempt you to think "Oh that sound logical. but it is just like that cool glass of lemonade on a hot day-it looks good smells good but there is a couple of drops of arsnic in it- You cannot detect it.. but it is there .... take care my friend.
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logansrunRe: What are the stages of walking away?

Mouthy,

Well, I don't exactly spend my Friday nights reading the Isaiah Book Volume 2 .  I actually think it is a good thing to peruse the literature every once in a while, get a good laugh, see how ridiculous it is and move on.  I agree it would be emotionally harmful for someone to constantly read the WT (if they are truly in a vulnerable state), but I don't have a problem otherwise. 

Take care,

Bradley
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mouthyRe: What are the stages of walking away?
Good to hear that Bradly-- Hope I didnt sound "preachy" It is hard for an old leapord  to change his spots-exuse me!!!!I couldnt read em!!! I get ill Truthfully!!!!
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HuxleyRe: What are the stages of walking away?

I've been out for 8 months now, and for the first couple of months, I kept having a recurring nightmare....

I would dream I was at an Special Assembly Day with my newly grown beard and all were aghast!

No more nightmares now, just pleasant dreams!

Huxley
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wannaexitRe: What are the stages of walking away?

Bradley,

        Congratulations!  It's quite an accomplishment to be on track in just ten months.  I am happy for you.

        
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kat_newmasRe: What are the stages of walking away?

Kat Newmas agrees with thesilence.... If you got that far in ten months pal, you must be a pretty strong person. It has been twenty years for me.... I still get the hee-bee-gee-bees everytime I see a christmas tree.  My wife loves christmas, and I dont really have an opinion on it... but I still dread seeing Nov-Dec. coming.  I used to have to sit in the library at school during any holiday activities.... then the other guys beat you up, cause you dont believe in Jesus, cause you wont celebrate his B,day.  Just gives me the creeps thats all...  I see a reindeer, and I just know I am about to be stuffed into a locker in the gym.

kat
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ThechickennestRe: What are the stages of walking away?
Good job logan! You have made excellent progress. College is great. Fill your mind with all the new and fresh information you can get! About the being snubbed part...Do what I do. If it is a so-called lifer, strong JW. Go out of your way to get in their face with a friendly hello and smile. Make them squirm. Why play there game? I about give a young elder the other day a heart attack I think. He did not see me coming! I moved right into his space and gave him a hearty hello as if it were old times! He nearly lost his balance and was so damn flustered, he returned my greeting! He was the same elder I sent my resignation letter to. He was the same one who told me I would be treated as disfellowshipped! Have some fun logan! Congratulations! Duane Wing
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trevorRe: What are the stages of walking away?

I drifted towards the edge of the organization over some years and finaly  realised that in the words of the song - 'I had come to doubt all that I once held as true.' will never forget the friends and relatives whose affection I lost, along with the feeling of safety that belonging to the Watchtower Society's world brought me. All my life I had been promised that I would never grow old and die but would live forever on earth, when it was turned into a paradise. Now I realized that I was going to grow old and die like every other human. Coming to terms with the reality of so many wasted years and learning to live outside the organization and accept as worthwhile, people who I had previously condemned, was a long hard climb.

Unlike so many others I was fortunate enough to have a wife who felt the same as me and we left together and built a new life with new friends and a different and happier outlook.
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