I was talking with Xena the other day and she made a simple, but powerful point. As long as one has JW family, one never really gets over the shunning. So true. Ive been trying now for 2-1/2 years and its still rough. Usually I dont think about them. Nothing mean against them its just like the old saying goes "out of sight, out of mind." But my kids still have contact with my JW family and theyll say something like "Dad, aunt Liza had a baby girl" or "Dad, we were just at uncle Robs new house." Ok, I can deal with and respect their choice not to associate with me but to not even let me know that they had a baby?? Cmon, that goes beyond shunning, thats just downright mean. Yeah, at certain times shunning still hurts but I really dont believe one can completely get over it.