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EnglishmanDo You Think That You Might Turn Back To Jehovah?


I`ve never yet been snubbed by a JW. The reason is that I refuse point blank to speak to them unless they speak to me first. So, if I`m visiting my JW mum and JW visitors arrive – which they often do – I just smile, raise one eyebrow slightly, and look `em straight in the eye!

Now, according to the WT, I am extremely ill-mannered because I don`t make myself scarce. Well, that`s their problem, and as I believe DF`ing to be a dreadful travesty of justice, why should I `enable` them in their shameful `sending to Coventry` of those who`s beliefs are not in line with their own?

This “smile but don`t speak” ritual of mine lobs the ball right back into their court, so the embarrassed dub will eventually crack and start a conversation of sorts. He who speaks first loses!

However, one not very pleasant part of this charade is that the discomfited dub eventually feels impelled to make some sort of comment that will reflect your cast-out condition. The comment is usually this: ” Do you think that you might turn back to Jehovah one day, perhaps?”

Now this is a hell of a loaded question that is guaranteed to infuriate an ex-dub! The implication is, of course, that by ceasing to associate with JW`s, that you have “turned your back on Jehovah” and therefore you must “make your way back” as you are, at this point in time, little more than a carob-pod eater.

I used to reply that "it has nothing to do with Jehovah and it has everything to do with Brooklyn". But, although it sounds pretty glib to me, it does not have much impact on the average imprinted dub.

So, how would you reply to the question? Bear in mind that you will only be able to say one or two lines before the old eyes glaze over as the WT defensive closed mindedness kicks in.

How do you reply to being asked: ”Do you think that you might turn back to Jehovah one day, perhaps?”

Englishman
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SimonRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
Good question Englishman.
I haven't really seen any since we left. My wife saw an elders wife working in the local Supermarket but didnt give her the chance to ignore her. I would have made an effort to get her to serve me so that I could complain about her if she wouldn't (am I evil or what?!).
I haven't seen my parents or sisters since I was DA'd so it hasn't come up with them.
The elders at the committee meeting asked me the question but I can't remember what I said (have to play the tape back ).
I think a dissmisive laugh and "there's absolutely nothing I miss about that shower" is probably best. They WANT you to miss them...I want them to know that there is nothing to miss.
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unansweredRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
englishman-great question. i was told iwas turning my back on jehovah before i was ever DF'ed. if i was asked this question now, i think i would have to say that i try to live, treat others right, and search for the real "truth" about everything. this will always be my endeavor and if that is turning my back on jehovah in their eyes-well then, they are the ones that will have to live with it, because it brings me no guilt.
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JAVARe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
Englishman,

This comes to mind: "Yes, I returned to Jehovah when I stopped worshipping the Watchtower Society. It's wonderful having a personal relationship with God--I didn't have that as a Witnesses."

As an Agnostic, that's the best reply I can think of before their eyes glaze into a TowerThink trance.

--JAVA, counting time at the Coffee Shop

Edited by - JAVA on 23 March 2001 15:10:5
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patio34Re: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
Dear Englishman,
You might just want to appear incredulous that they would even ask such a personal question with a reply such as "Excuse me?" or "huh?" then letting them backpeddle or pursue a question you have expressed disapproval of.

After all, you do not have to defend yourself to anyone. You may want to add "That's personal." And it truly is none of their business and a loaded question to boot because it presupposes you HAVE left God because of leaving the org. In the same ilk as "have you stopped beating your wife?"

Btw, what does "borg" mean?
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unansweredRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
god, i feel stupid, i completely misread your question. as to the question you actually asked:), i would just say that i never turned away.
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EnglishmanRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
Unanswered,

I thought your answer was great!

Englishman.
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RedhorseWomanRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
Being inactive, I've never experienced this. I've run into JWs from time to time, but they usually (if they ask at all) ask when I might return to the Hall. I guess being inactive means you're still okay with Jehovah....sort of.

Btw, what does "borg" mean?

It stands for Brooklyn Organization. It is also analagous to the Borg of Star Trek fame.
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unansweredRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
too kind, englishman-in the future i'll try to use actual reading skills when i look at your posts:) i always find them interesting
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expatbritRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
How do you reply to being asked: ”Do you think that you might turn back to Jehovah one day, perhaps?”

No.

Expatbrit

Can't believe I had to edit this reply!

Edited by - expatbrit on 23 March 2001 15:23:17
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dark cloudsRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
i would take the socratic method of teaching and reply with a question:

How do blind people know when they are done wiping?

CHUCK
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EnglishmanRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
"How do blind people know when they are done wiping?"

Answer: `Cos they feel a lot better!

Englishman.
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cynicusRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
How do you reply to being asked: ”Do you think that you might turn back to Jehovah one day, perhaps?”

I was invited last year, that is early december, by someone working my street and whom I couldn't avoid, to join him for some good old door banging. I hadn't seen this guy for more than a year. Not giving me a chance to answer his question at all it was immediately followed by "So when is convenient for you?"

I said "well, this year I'm waaay to busy." Silence, accompanied by a kind of half understanding grimace. "And I guess that will be the same for the next five years or so."

Edited by - cynicus on 23 March 2001 21:22:15
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ApostasyDuJourRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
How do you reply to being asked: ”Do you think that you might turn back to Jehovah one day, perhaps?”

My response would be:
"I think that I may turn into Jehovah one day!!!!"

Watch 'em run!!
ADJ


"If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything."

Edited by - ApostasyDuJour on 23 March 2001 21:52:0
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TRRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
Englishman,

The last two elders that came to my door got quite a shock. I let 'em have it with both barrels. I pulled no punches when they asked when I'd return to Jehovah. MAN, you should've seen the twisted grimaces and winces on their faces when I told them why I wouldn't return! They stood there for a full hour while I told them every dirty stinking WT secret. They were silent and dumbstruck. The only thing the one elder(a lawyer) could muster was; "I'll look into that and get back to you. You know, I'm trained to do lots of study." Yeah, right. That was three years ago. They've never been back.

TR
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mommyRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
Englishman,
Thank you again for a great thread My mom called me this week, first time in over a month. She said to me that she is depressed seeing all of us(my siblings) leave Jehovah. I told her from my heart...I have never left Jehovah, I have taught my children about Jehovah and His love. She told me I am proving I don't have love for Jehovah, by not attending meetings. This could have gone back and forth like tennis. I decided to cut it short. I said, "I love you Mom. and you may speak to your grandkids anytime you want."
Silence, no response.
Sometimes when we have no replies to a comment, we can be guaranteed they listen.(I hope.)
wendy
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PriscaRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
I hate this question because in their minds, they are assuming you have left Jehovah. I always reply that I still have a love for him, still believe in him and still read the Bible.

I think JAVA's reply was best :

Yes, I returned to Jehovah when I stopped worshipping the Watchtower Society. It's wonderful having a personal relationship with God--I didn't have that as a Witness

That should shut them up.
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ozziepostRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
Englishman esq

my retort to "Don't leave Jehovah" is "He's already left, and I'm trying to catch up."!

Ozzie[8>]
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EsmeraldaRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
My reply is short: much along the lines of Expatbrit's.

I usually clarify what they're asking by saying:

"You mean return to the organization?"

They look confused a moment, then usually nod.

Then, I say "No."

They always look totally unravelled by the simplicity and finality of the statement.

Then they make themselves scarce!

Great post as always Englishman.

*hugs*
Essie

The Four Agreements:
Be Impeccable With Your Word
Don't Take Anything Personally
Don't Make Assumptions
Always Do Your Best
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thinkers wifeRe: Do You Think That You Might Turn Back To Je...
This brought something that happened to me about three years ago back to mind. My brother a baptized witness and pioneer asked me if I was going to go back to the meetings.
Without even thinking I said "I doubt it very much". Pretty much end of conversation. Actually, I haven't spoken with him since. His wife made it clear that he refuses to talk to me since I da'ed myself. Oh well his loss.
TW
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