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MarilynThey do too go beyond what is written...


tdogg started this on another thread.  His comments were:

I wish I had that quote when I was told I had to wear a tie and suit to meeting, when I played chess, when I bought Star Wars figures, when i had to do at least 5 hrs of service a month, make a comment at every meeting, not wear top-sider shoes, never see a rated R movie, wear a no-blood bracelet, highlight all the answers in my Watchtower, not play organised sports, not salute the flag,....anyone want to take over?.....

I'll add:  being disfellowshipped and shunned for leaving quietly.  Marking people who won't shun their close relatives.  The door to door work.   Predicting dates for Armeggedon.   Not being allowed to use chicken stock cubes in cooking.  obsessive concern about aluminium pots.  belting kids for not sitting quiet in meetings. Anyone else?

 
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ISPRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Of course they do....

Birthdays.....Mothers/Fathers day.....Transplants at one time....oral sex

Blood issue

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Dizzy CatRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Hey - what this about alluminium pots and stock cubes ??

Never heard that before :o)
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zev  Re: They do too go beyond what is written...

"R" and "X" rated movies

 
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Dizzy CatRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Certain X-rated movies could break Bible principles (quite clearly) .... so I think this needs to be struck off the list !

Two I now recall are:

Being a vegetarian (I was oppressed by peers in the congregation)

Having a beard !! (very silly indeed, surely a matter for your personal choice?)
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Been thereRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Don't know what the quote was but I will add...............

Not eatting HOT DOGS (they were made with blood)

Did anyone else hear of that one? I love hot dogs (yes I know whats in them).

This reminds me of a joke...................

A Mother Superior and another Nun were assigned to the United States from another country. On the way over Mother Superior told the Nun that she had heard they eat Dogs in America. When they got here they were walking down the street and saw a vendor selling "Hot Dogs". To fit in, Mother Superior suggested that they at least try the local food. They walk up to the stand and order two hot dogs. The vendor happily grabs two hot dogs, puts them on a bun and wraps them in foil, gives them to the Nuns. They go over to a bench and sit down to eat. Mother Superior opened the foil and quickly shut it looking shocked and embarrassed. She leaned over to the Nun and whispered in her ear " What part did you get"?

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SironaRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Ok here are some contradictions:

You can't practice Yoga, but you can use yoga stretches and call them Pilates and its OK

You can't support your country, salute the flag, vote, or work for the government, but you can take advantage of the governments benefits services and other services such as policing

You can't say cheers, celebrate any so-called christian holiday, or say "bless you" because of the pagan connections, but you can use a pagan calendar, have certain pagan decor in your home (in wallpaper designs for instance), and wear a wedding ring (which has roots in paganism).

You can't celebrate birthdays because its so-called pagan and it elevates one person, but you can celebrate anniversaries and have a nice party in honour of the couple.

You can't give your children gifts on Christmas Day, but its OK if you give them gifts a few days before or after Dec 25th

You can't pray to Jesus or worship Jesus, but you can walk around saying you are Christian

You can't watch Harry Potter because of the supernatural connection which is demonic, but you can watch a film in which aliens kill people because thats just science fiction

If you are a woman, you can't pray out loud in the presence of a baptised man (without wearing a head covering), but you can go around saying that Jehovahs Witnesses see women as equal to men

You can't wear a skirt that is above your knee, but if you're on holiday and noone knows you, you can wear whatever you want

You can't speak to, or associate with someone who has been disfellowshipped for adultery, but you can speak to and associate with the unbaptised person who is guilty of adultery

You can't have friends who are not JW, but you can pretend to be a friend to someone who is not JW if you think they could be recruited

You are discouraged from pursuing any "wordly career" or from going to college, but if you're a man, when you get married you must support your family

You should see problems as persecution from Satan unless the person with the problems is subsequently removed from the congregation....in that case the problem is Jehovah sorting out the wheat from the chaff

You can't go to nightclubs but you can get away with going to a pub that is open until 2am

You should look after the elderly and the orphans, unless they are not JW (in which case they're bad associates and should be generally avoided)

You can't do any sort of charity work for "worldy" organisations, but you can allow yourself to feel righteous for handing out magazines

You can critisise and deeply examine the catholic church and its past, but you can't look into the past of the Watchtower, and if you critisise it you may be disfellowshipped

You can say "worldies" have no love and will die at armageddon, and also say that you don't judge people

You can pick up on every story about catholic pedophiles, but on lots of evidence can deny it happens at your church and that the victims are liars

Sirona

 

 

 
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SYNRe: They do too go beyond what is written...
Wow Sirona...talk about hitting the nail on the head! Nice post! You highlighted just how ridiculous some of their Corporate Policies are!
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plmkrzyRe: They do too go beyond what is written...
Not being allowed to use chicken stock cubes in cooking. And cooking with aluminum

I never heard of that one either. LMAO.

Marylin, hun..are you sure you didn't hear those on the News? Thats where I heard it.

I heard about the aluminum pots and pans but that is actually because cooking with aluminum has been proven to cause certain types of cancer.

I remember that when ever there was a New discovery in science and health issues they would always make some kind of remark about it in the service meetings or ministry school like a side note and talk about anything that was mentioned in the WTstudy as something to be aware  and contious of and use discerment when making choices. Like if you have aluminum cookware and knowing the risks involved by using it, would you want to take those chances or play it safe and replace your cookware?

 

I could never understand the actual rules like NO FACIAL HAIR ON MEN. That to me was and is one of the most STUPID rules. I remember the reasoning given for it was that "All of our brothers should have and maintain a uniform and neat apperance so that they will ALL LOOK like brothers"  To me it was just a step away from wearing uniforms like kids in Catholic school. Which incidently was looked down on in the society. Double standard that made no sense. Because there is no real difference in perspective.

 

Please excuse errors. I'm still sleepy and too lazy to do word.

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rosalynRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Sirona

I wish my computer had a printer.  I would love to copy your post.  You are bang on with the nonsense and contadictions.  Well spoken.  and I am sure there are many others that we could add to the list. 

 
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rosalynRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

   just a quick add on....chicken stock cubes....lecithin....if it didn't say vegetable lecithin it could have had blood in it. I am guessing on this one.

   And then there was the thing about white bread....once again the lecithin problem...it's an a emulsifier.   If it didn't say vegetable ........

   And I just remembered one other Nestles Quick.....Alot of companies changed their  labeling so we could eat their stuff

   this could lead into quite the discussion on the blood issue which I truly have an issue with but another time and I guess another spot on this forum too.

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EnglishmanRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Nice one, Sirona.

Now, about this pub that stay open until 2am, the address please......

Englishman.
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Dizzy CatRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Nice one Sirona -your thoughts have been copied/pasted into a Word doc for future reference ...

/ DC
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sisteractRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

good one sirona

how about adding: you can't have turkey with your "worldly" family on thanksgiving, but it's ok to have it with the "brothers and sisters" on that very same day!!!!
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NeonMadmanRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Here's where you can find the deal on aluminum cookware:

http://www.premier1.net/~raines/aluminum.html

Never heard the one about chicken bouillon, though...

Edited by - NeonMadman on 16 July 2002 8:57:23

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SironaRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

Thanks Syn and Rosalyn,

I'm on my lunch hour and thought of a couple more (this thread has prompted me to think more about how they go "beyond" the scriptures, and its amazing how many things there are!):

You can have blood intravenously, but only if you separate it into parts first.  You can then say that this is still "abstaining from blood".

It is advisable to marry someone who you have never spent time alone with.

You can condemn all other religions as false, whilst reading a bible that was canonised by the catholic church

If you are depressed, you can put your trust in untrained, uneducated men called "elders", but you cannot trust trained professionals such as counsellors and psychologists.

You can demand that your faith is respected, whilst referring to other religions as "the sinful great harlot" who God will destroy

Those people who don't work and who claim benefits can be held in very high regard (they have time for meetings and ministry), those people who work full time to support their families are often called "spiritually weak"

Sirona 

 

 

 

 
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SironaRe: They do too go beyond what is written...

There have been a couple of threads on this actually, check out

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=8365&site=3

where there is a massive list of things!

Englishman:  a couple of pubs in our town are open until at least 1 am (and sometimes 2am).  They have special late licenses.  Various JWs were known to frequent these pubs until we had a local needs on worldly association....so now they go to the next town where they won't be seen!

Sirona
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MaryRe: They do too go beyond what is written...
Well, there's alot to choose from that's for sure.....let's see:

1. I can't recall Jesus going from door-to-door with the Watchtower and Awake scrolls;

2. there's nothing in the bible that even HINTS that 1st Century Christians were required to report how many scrolls they placed, or how many hours they spent preaching, or how many Return Visits they had;

3. Nothing in the bible saying you have to go to 5 meetings a week otherwise you will die at Armageddon;
4. Miracle Wheat ('nuff said)
5. No beards on brothers are allowed, otherwise, they're "worldly", but beards on sisters is okay (LOL!)
6. 'member the "no coloured shirts" policy years ago??
7. Smoking shows a total disregard for your body, but you can be an automechanic and breath in 10 times the poisons every day.
8. Getting drunk doesn't seem to be a problem for many in the Hall, but you can't smoke dope for relief of pain if you've had chemo.
9. You're not supposed to go see Arnie as the Terminator kicking the bad guys' ass, but it's okay to look at all the pictures in the Society's publications as to how all non-JW adults, children, old people and maybe even animals, will die at Armageddon;
10. It's great to point out the flaws in every other religion on earth, but to even question anything within the Organization is considered "apostacy".
11. You can't be on the basketball team or any other team after school, but you can go hang out at the mall or watch TV till your heart's content.
12. You can't hang around with anyone who's not a JW, even if they are moral, clean, nice, kind etc., but you can hang around other JW kids who secretly smoke, have sex, do drugs and only go to the meetings cause they don't know how to get out of it.
13. If you are raised a JW, you're not supposed to go to college or university to get a degree because that's "bad", but if you BECOME a Witness, and you have a degree in something, then that's absolutely wonderful!!

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ozziepostRe: They do too go beyond what is written...
#99. You can't give blood, but you can accept blood fractions that are derived from the people who sinned by giving the blood in the first place.
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Mister BiggsRe: They do too go beyond what is written...
Right on, Sirona!
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