Check this out: http://www.swissbankclaims.com/PDFs_Eng/WatchTowerBible.pdfBasically they are trying to gain a portion of the Swiss Banks Settlement for their "Holocaust education" work. These two paragraphs really struck me though:"The few remaining Witness survivors have used their waning vitality to speak to young people, educators, and scholars about their experiences and those of their martyred fellow believers. If the court sees fit to allocate a portion of the settlement fund to the Watch Tower to continue this work of remembrance, we believe it would constitute fitting recognition of individual Witnesses who suffered and died while maintaining their faith and human values.Some Witnesses died prematurely and left no heirs to make a claim to the Swiss Bank Settlement Fund. However, the legacy of spiritual resistance that they left behind is of great value in the education of future generations about the importance of standing up for the dignity and value of human life. Representing these individuals, the Watch Tower would be pleased devote any allocated moneys solely to the interests of Holocaust education and the remembrance of the prisoners who bore the purple triangle, according as the court might stipulate."In the first paragraph, it would seem to me to preempt any individual JWs who might otherwise apply for a portion of the settlement. And in the second, they are attempting to set themselves up as the heirs of those who died and left no heirs. What arroagance!
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| DocBob | WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
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| Elsewhere | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Mo' Money! Mo' Money! Mo' Money!"As every one knows, there are mistakes in the Bible" - The Watchtower, April 15, 1928, p. 126 Believe in yourself, not mythology. <x >< | ||
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| sf | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Thanks Bob.I was given a specific tool to use to open these types of files, yet nothing resulted.Adobe still will not install properly either, so thx again.sKallyIf man was supposedly created in gods image, then.....holy krap...we're all doomed.-sKallyWagger | ||
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| sf | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
< http://www.unitednationsnews.com/RE: the Swiss vote:< http://www.unitednationsnews.com/?action=display&article=12285942&template=un/stories.txt&index=recent< http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=1090803&thesection=news&thesubsection=worldRE: "UNITED NATIONS NEEDS TO ADDRESS SEX ABUSE CASE":< http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A38128-2002Mar4.htmlPedophiles in the United Nations.Pedophiles in the Watchtower Bible Tract Society/JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.Pedophiles in the Catholic church.Pedophiles in the New York synoGOG.Hmmmmm, humanitarians?BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHsKally, i'm ONLY human klass: If man was supposedly created in gods image, then.....holy krap...we're all doomed.-sKallyWagger | ||
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| sf | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Bob,MadApostate posted this thread that was I pulled from page 11 tonight of the active threads:< http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=14499&site=3I was about to log out and caught it. Have a gander.sKally | ||
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| Marilyn | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Unbelievable. | ||
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| ofcmad | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Before the money starts rolling.. someone needs to drag out the 1934 Yearbook and show the United Nations what they REALLY believed about the Jews....ofcmad | ||
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| DakotaRed | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Personally, I do hope the courts see fit to award the Watchtower a portion of the money. And, since the Watchtower itself says no amount of money can compensate for the loss, I would petition the courts to award them one dollar!After all, haven't they always taught that God takes care of their monetary needs? I would love to be a fly on the wall at Brooklyn and listen to the GB if they only received a single dollar. That would show where their hearts really are. If God's Spirit is filling a Kingdom Hall, how is it that Satan can manuever the ones within that Kingdom Hall at the same time? | ||
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| nelly136 | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
. http://www.disc.co.uk/standfirm/quotes.htmborg holocaust sitenelly | ||
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| nytelecom1 | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
After all, haven't they always taught that God takes care of their monetary needs? ummm.could this be one way? | ||
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| Hairy Harr | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Da Judge is smilin' from his hole in the ground. Excuse me while I puke. HH | ||
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| slipnslidemaster | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
How is it that they are letting a female attorny work on this?Carolyn Wah. This is the second time I've seen her name pop up on my radar. I'm surprised. She must be very aggressive in the organization.Slipnslidemaster: "Facts are the enemy of truth." - Don Quixote | ||
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| nelly136 | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=carolyn+r+wah slipn nelly | ||
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| ashitaka | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Hawkaw?!?!?! Where are you?!?!? Do you know any swiss banks to forward the WTBTS Hitler-kiss up letter to?????ashi | ||
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| Lady Lee | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
For those of you who could not open the pdf file (link posted above) here. I printed the pdf file - scanned it and OCRed it TOTAL TEXT ------------------------- UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORKIn re Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation: Master Document No. CV -96-4849 (ERK) (MDG) Consolidates with CV-96-S161 and : CV-96-461This Document Relates to All Actions :Holocaust Victim Assets Litigation (Swiss Bank Litigation) Proposed Plan of Allocation for Jehovah's Witness Victims and Targets of Nazi PersecutionDecember 7, 1999COMES NOW, the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, (hereinafter Watch Tower), the corporate agency directing the administrative and religious work of Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide, by its attorney, Carolyn R. Wah, requesting an allocation of a portion of the settlement fund for Holocaust education and remembrance as well as just and equitable compensation as outlined below:As the attached report entitled "Spiritual Resistance and Its Cost for a Christian Minority: A Documentary Report of Jehovah's Witnesses Under Nazism, 1933-1945" will show, the Nazi persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses, which spanned virtually the entire Nazi period, exacted a heavy physical, financial, and emotional toll on that small religious community in all Nazi- occupied lands. The report also evidences that the Witnesses' individual and organized stance in opposition to the violent ideology of the regime was a decisive factor in the severity of the persecution, resulting in profound losses.Although conclusive documentation may be lacking for the claims of individuals targeted as Jehovah's Witnesses; there are three factors that argue for a favorable hearing for the individual applicants, even where the elusive "Swiss connection" may be weak:(1) Since Jehovah's Witnesses were among the earliest groups to be targeted for sentencing to concentration camps, they were often used in the actual construction of the camps. In some cases, the SS-run camps could, in themselves, be considered commercial enterprises that benefited from slave labor. Because the Witnesses had been in the camp system for long periods of time, they sometimes worked for the camp administration, but without due compensation, of course (2) Witness literature often carried sharp criticism of flagrant human rights violations in Nazi Germany. This was true of Witness literature produced and distributed clandestinely within 2 Nazi-occupied Europe, as well as Witness literature published internationally. The Gestapo was well aware of the critical and revealing content of the literature, and thus they expended extraordinary effort to expose and destroy the secret printing facilities. They confiscated printing equipment, burned stocks of literature whenever it was found, and hunted down and executed many of those involved with the underground work. Thus, the nonviolent resistance offered by the Witnesses increased the financial, material, and physical losses they sustained. (3) The nonviolent, nonpolitical resistance of Jehovah's Witnesses to Nazi policies is distinctive for its duration and consistency. It is not possible to quantify the losses suffered by families whose mothers or fathers were given lengthy sentences in camp or prison because of their faith. Beyond the lost wages, lost property, and lost years are the intangible costs suffered by all victims of Nazi terror. Unlike other victims, however, most Witnesses had a choice. Generally, they were targeted solely because of their religious convictions. Witnesses were offered the opportunity to avoid persecution simply by renouncing their beliefs. Therefore, by virtue of the length of the persecution and the nature of their resistance, we ask that the court grant special consideration to the applications of Witness survivors or their heirs, which will no doubt be few in number. Further, the court may allocate a portion of the settlement to be used for purposes of Holocaust education and remembrance. Combating intolerance and indifference is extremely important work. The Watch Tower and individual Jehovah's Witnesses have expended hundreds of thousands of dollars to promote awareness of the Holocaust and its lessons. The Watch Tower and its affiliate branch offices have made educational and academic presentations, free of admission charge, in the United States, Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Israel, and most countries of Eastern and Western Europe. More than 400 seminars and exhibitions have been held in3Germany alone, often in cooperation with concentration camp memorials, research institutions, and museums. Important research and archival work is being conducted in Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, Poland, Russia, Israel, and other places.The few remaining Witness survivors have used their waning vitality to speak to young people, educators, and scholars about their experiences and those of their martyred fellow believers. If the court sees fit to allocate a portion of the settlement fund to the Watch Tower to continue this work of remembrance, we believe it would constitute fitting recognition of individual Witnesses who suffered and died while maintaining their faith and human values.Some Witnesses died prematurely and left no heirs to make a claim to the Swiss Bank Settlement Fund. However, the legacy of spiritual resistance that they left behind is of great value in the education of future generations about the importance of standing up for the dignity and value of human life. Representing these individuals, the Watch Tower would be pleased to devote any allocated moneys solely to the interests of Holocaust education and the remembrance of the prisoners who bore the purple triangle, according as the court might stipulate.Realizing that thousands of survivors and heirs will apply to the court to receive a portion of the Settlement Fund, Watch Tower is not in a position to recommend a certain percentage to be allotted for the purposes outlined above, nor are we able to suggest what portion of the Fund should be allotted to individual Witness survivors. Watch Tower acknowledges that no amount of money can fully compensate for the losses of any victims of Nazi persecution. However, if the funds provided by the Swiss Banks Settlement can symbolically or practically mitigate the human suffering of survivors or their families, or if it can advance the work of education and remembrance, the money will have been well spent. In this allocation process, we rely on the court's equity and fairness.4 WHERFORE, in light of this information, Watch Tower, respectfully request an award in harmony with the just and equitable principles outlined in the settlement order. December 7,1999. Respectfully submitted, signature Carolyn R. Wah Associate General Counsel Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania 100 Watchtower Drive Patterson, NY 12563 Tel: (914) 306-0700 Fax: (914) 306-0709 ------------------------- end of textRejoice in the healing and not in the pain. Rejoice in the challenge overcome and not in the past hurts. Rejoice in the present - full of love and joy. Rejoice in the future for it is filled with new horizons yet to be explored. - Lee Marsh 2002 | ||
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| sf | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Thank you for opening this verbatim.Yahoo jws are going to really be disgusted with me today. hahahahaHEY CAROLYN!! KEEP DEFENDING THE MURDERERS. IT BECOMES YOU SO WELL.sKally:If man was supposedly created in gods image, then.....holy krap...we're all doomed.-sKallyWagger | ||
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| slipnslidemaster | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
I can tell that this Carolyn person wasn't born in. First she went to College, and she just seems really zealous to me by the number of web hits her name generates.I thought we were supposed to be "no part of this world"? I just don't get it. I don't get the 2 set's of rules that apply to the rank and file and headquarters.I sincerely HATE this religion.Slipnslidemaster: "Facts are the enemy of truth." - Don Quixote | ||
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| sf | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Hahahaha....Hey Slippers,I barely had the first paragraph pasted, and was kicked to da curb...just like that.Ouch...lololol.THE TRUTH PEOPLE, WILL SET YOUR KOLLECTIVE ASSES FREE. NO STRINGS! But you've got to open your eyes in order to fly.CAROLYN...Open their eyes woman. You are despicable! sKally:If man was supposedly created in gods image, then.....holy krap...we're all doomed.-sKallyWagger | ||
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| Gozz | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
I stumbled on this document: http://www.swissbankclaims.com/PDFs_Eng/WatchTowerBible.pdf again this weekend and thought to search that it's been discussed on JWD. Certainly, this matter didn't generate much discussion, but I wonder why? The WT applies for funds in compensation for Holocaust evils, that should be some news, especially as the first post raises some interesting views.Comments?. | ||
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| GermanXJW | Re: WT Applies for Holocaust Funds | |
Thanks for bringing this up again. I did not know about it and copied the information to the German board. There is another file on the site: It refers to http://https://www.jwhesf.org Anybody registered there? | ||
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by GermanXJW:
Correct formatting | |
nelly