Celtic	Re: The victim
	"The worst kind of Victim there is" Ummmmm what a strange comment on your behalf. No, in fact I entirely disagree with you. In some cases of psychiatry, one thing that you get to learn is this and what it comes down to is responsibility, but this has to be at a time when the 'patient' feels ready to accept that responsibility for there own actions. In your reasoning on this matter you are making the assumption that your model of 'victim' is the only one, when in fact, this can hardly be the case in every scenario. Of course, it has its place, but your lack of appreciation for the timing of this course of action still needs some tweaking on your own behalf. No offense mean't to you at all, it is just a case of being more sensitive with the approach, through empathy, listening to the other individuals needs, appropriate to the time scale within which that person is currently residing within, with their emotions. From this, one can then see whether there is a neurosis, or more seriously a character disorder at play, but better to be wise in determining this first without urging a 'patient' to make responsible moves when in fact they lack the internal strength to handle such at that time. I hope this assists you. Peace Mark
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