And this is why JW's think we are all crazy nutjobs

by lola28 60 Replies latest members adult

  • lola28
    lola28

    So something has been bothering me for a few days and I figured I’d put it out there and see what you guys thought. There are admittedly a lot of things that the society has done wrong and their doctrines have endangered many of the witnesses and have caused others heaps of pain, I am sympathetic to the feelings of those who have been DFed and understand the concern over the blood doctrine and I especially understand the outrage over the way they deal with accusations of sexual molestation, I guess we can all agree that the Society isn’t the innocent religious organization that they claim to be.

    Before I continue, I guess I’ll have to come clean with you guys, I don’t think that the Society is 100% evil, nor do I think that it’s members are all uneducated idiots who have to resort to being window washers or maintenance men and women, I don’t think all elders are hypocritical men and I would never presume to try and get anyone out of the organization. I don’t think I have any right to tell anyone how to live their lives. I know I could never be happy as a witness, but I know that there are many others that find peace within the JW lifestyle and who are perfectly content with who they are and what they believe. I try to afford them the same respect and courtesy that I expect people to give me.

    During the last week I happened upon a thread that had some pretty strong accusations against the Watchtower, there was a conference call where someone claimed to have been used in Satanic rituals at bethel and I think that’s when I realized how ridiculous and irresponsible some of the things that are posted here are. To make such outlandish claims does nothing other than tarnish the reputations of ex-JW’s, answer this honestly guys, if you were an active witness what would you have thought and done when you read that? Does it bother anyone else that there might be people really searching for information and instead of finding it they run into that kind of garbage?

    It is far too easy to make outlandish accusations nowadays, we live in a society where it’s easy and even acceptable to say hurtful things about people and get away with it, we are living in a TMZ Perez Hilton type of world, and it is absolutely disgusting.

    It is one thing to say “Oh yeah in my hall we had this one elder and he was kinda smelly” it is a completely different thing to accuse people of child molestation, of physical and mental abuse and even of forcing people to join in satanic rituals. I don’t understand why we are so eager to accept some of the things people say on this forum as if they were true. Let me remind you all of our friends Linda and Trevor, did we not learn something from that? Damn it people, some of you sent gifts to a person that never existed, did that not teach us a lesson? I think that for some the hatred and anger has managed to slowly replace common sense.

    It think that as a community we have to be more responsible about the things we say and just as people we have to do our best to be decent to others. Can you imagine how you would feel if it was your father, brother or husband who was accused on a message board of doinng these horrible things? I think it would behoove everyone if we made sure that we could back up the statements that we made, because I for one certainly don’t understand why some of the posters here fail to see that they could be sued for slander and libel due to some of the things they say. I can assure you that if it were me who was being accused of certain things I’d sue the hell out of the person who was irresponsible and malicious enough to mess with my reputation.

    Okay, I’m done. Thoughts anyone?

  • gymbob
    gymbob

    Who are Linda and Trevor?

  • oompa
    oompa

    I concur, and have posted before that NOTHING should ever be made up or exaggerated regarding JW's...because there is just so much easy material there that we dont NEED to make anything up....just quoting their own words is a riot....i love the post recently from the 1967 yearbook about the talking snake experience....lmao.........oompa

    and telling my jw friends about beth sarim and that it is in the Proclaimers book....priceless

    oh and showing them the changes WT made in THEIR OWN bible...the NWT...that always goes over well

  • Mickey mouse
    Mickey mouse

    On the whole I agree. I don't think it's fair to censor people just because we don't agree with what they claim is a true account of their experiences. Then again I find it impossible to suspend disbelief and buy into some of these stories.

    There is no doubt that without getting into individual cases, some people are a gift to the society. Perhaps 1% of apostates define the straw man they claim represents the whole body of apostates. I just wish these people making outlandish claims could appreciate that.

  • Jeremy C
    Jeremy C
    During the last week I happened upon a thread that had some pretty strong accusations against the Watchtower, there was a conference call where someone claimed to have been used in Satanic rituals at bethel and I think that’s when I realized how ridiculous and irresponsible some of the things that are posted here are.

    You are absolutely correct. I am one who has grown completely intolerant of this kind of nonsense. We have had no shortage of threads on this forum claiming that the Watchtower uses subliminal Satanic images in their artwork. Others have claimed that C.T. Russell was influenced by the Illuninati and the Masons. The Watchtower organization has published and taught enough silliness for us to discuss without going on these outlandish Easter egg hunts.

    The instance that you reference above is a perfect example. I had a gut feeling long ago that the administrator of that conference call site was a bit of a demagogue prone to sensationalism. This latest tabloid-style stunt only solidifies that for me.

    Ex-JWs are trying to help those who are doubting the organization by appealing to sober-mindedness, rationality, and logical reasoning skills. How anyone believes that fantastical stories about a little girl's demonic channeling being used as a source for Watchtower writings can be of any help is beyond me. This kind of sensational self-indulgence is exactly what Raymond Franz avoided and eschewed.

    To make such outlandish claims does nothing other than tarnish the reputations of ex-JW’s, answer this honestly guys, if you were an active witness what would you have thought and done when you read that? Does it bother anyone else that there might be people really searching for information and instead of finding it they run into that kind of garbage?

    Yes, you are absolutely right. Personally, I have grown tired of the childish threads on here which seek to promote farsical tales of outlandish conspiracy. What does it accomplish? To a lurking JW, it only proves to them that ex-JWs are influenced by the demons to a degree whereby they have lost all sense of reasonableness.

    After this latest publicity stunt, I have no respect for the sixcreens website or it's administrators. They have relegated themselves to the same level as the National Enquirer, and the Weekly World News, in my opinion.

  • Gregor
    Gregor

    When the Satanic ritual item came up it was questioned and outright condemned as BS by several here. That's good. But this is the internet and if a curious JW is just looking for an excuse to find fault with a so called apostate website they can always find something over the top. I cringed when Danny Hazzard was posting his crazy revenge ideas. I still cringe when someone posts about exploring wild, promiscuous sex.

    But we have to just let it all hang out there because as was said above, there are hundreds of legit, well researched and factual posts here that expose the WT Sciety for the harmful cult it is. I think it is a mistake to give too much benefit of the doubt to the Watchtower just because some get carried away in their desire to slam the org.

  • lola28
    lola28
    I concur, and have posted before that NOTHING should ever be made up or exaggerated regarding JW's...because there is just so much easy material there that we dont NEED to make anything up....

    Yes I totally agree with that.

    I am one who has grown completely intolerant of this kind of nonsense.

    Me too, it makes it very hard to really trust and believe in anything that gets posted here.

  • leavingwt
    leavingwt

    Were the posts in violation of any of the forum rules?

  • oompa
    oompa
    Lola28: Me too, it makes it very hard to really trust and believe in anything that gets posted here.

    Lola...lisen and listen carefully and trust this and believe it...........NEVER EVER believe in everthing that gets posted here or on ANY other site!!.......question everything....then prove to yourself if something is true or not..........oompa

  • lola28
    lola28

    Nope, making up crazy stories is not a violation of the forum rules.

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