Ginny wrote:
I remembered from In Search of Christian Freedom, about how
disfellowshipping was meant to be a personal choice, not a decision
forced on the congregation by a small committee. I did not have
the material at hand and did not do a very good job of it.Ginny, I think the point you are referring to is on page 326 of Ray's book.He talks about 2 Cor 2:6-8 where it says "rebuke given by the majority" of
the congregation was sufficient and that the man should now be forgiven
by them--"the majority.""Majority" implying not all withdrew fellowship with the individual, but
that it was a voluntary congregational response on a personal level.Check page 344:
Same Greek phrase is used at
2 Thess 3:14 "stop associating with" (jw's apply as marking only,
not total shunning)
and
1 Cor 5:11 - "quit mixing in company with" (jw's apply as total shunning)Page 338 for some good comments on 2 John 9-11 about never
say a greeting.What is at issue? The teaching of Jesus as the Christ, not the teachings
of a religion.Page 340 and 341
Two different Greek words translated "greeting"
at 2 John 11 and 13JW's say they have different meanings.But Luke 1 :28, 29 uses both Greek words synonymously
indicating they had the same meaning."Greeting" is not talking about just saying "hello."
It is talking about showing acceptance or agreement.I don't think jw's use Mt 18:15-19 for disfellowshipping offenses?
Isn't that for fraud/slander?Hope this helps.
Am running out of time.
Quester
I remembered from In Search of Christian Freedom, about how
disfellowshipping was meant to be a personal choice, not a decision
forced on the congregation by a small committee. I did not have
the material at hand and did not do a very good job of it.Ginny, I think the point you are referring to is on page 326 of Ray's book.He talks about 2 Cor 2:6-8 where it says "rebuke given by the majority" of
the congregation was sufficient and that the man should now be forgiven
by them--"the majority.""Majority" implying not all withdrew fellowship with the individual, but
that it was a voluntary congregational response on a personal level.Check page 344:
Same Greek phrase is used at
2 Thess 3:14 "stop associating with" (jw's apply as marking only,
not total shunning)
and
1 Cor 5:11 - "quit mixing in company with" (jw's apply as total shunning)Page 338 for some good comments on 2 John 9-11 about never
say a greeting.What is at issue? The teaching of Jesus as the Christ, not the teachings
of a religion.Page 340 and 341
Two different Greek words translated "greeting"
at 2 John 11 and 13JW's say they have different meanings.But Luke 1 :28, 29 uses both Greek words synonymously
indicating they had the same meaning."Greeting" is not talking about just saying "hello."
It is talking about showing acceptance or agreement.I don't think jw's use Mt 18:15-19 for disfellowshipping offenses?
Isn't that for fraud/slander?Hope this helps.
Am running out of time.
Quester