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confusaIMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson


A witness just informed me about a couple that we know who had their assembly recently, and it was announced at the private elder's meeting that there will be a special meeting with all the elders in the US in Patterson. It was mentioned that we are now living "In the End of End of Times" and that the UN is talking about prohibiting religions. Has anyone heard of this???
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BluebladesRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
I don't see topic.
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undercoverRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson

Sounds like the JW rumor mill is working full tilt...

The Society is going to have a new teaching program for all elders.  From what I understand, these schools were going to be at Bethel for all US elders.  That's probably the "special meeting" that your contact was talking about.

As far as JWs are concerned, they've been teaching that they've been living in the "Time of the End" since 1914 for decades.  That's nothing new.  As for the "End of the End", the leadership has always tried to instill a sense of urgency in the rank and file to keep them busy and distracted from reality.  It's ironic...and frustrating...how the WTS will use the rumor mill to promote that the "End" is so close, but in writing they'll hedge their bets by saying that no one knows the hour.

The UN banning religions has been a JW urban myth since I was a little...and that was a few decades ago.  Other fundamentalists have rumored the same thing.  No basis in fact or logic.

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joelbear69Re: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
Soon we will be living in the end of the end of the end times.
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blondieRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
Doesn't the elders school start in February in 2008; starting with the POs?  Could this info have been twisted by those out of the loop?
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RunningMan Re: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson

I remember back in the 80's, a fellow commented at the Watchtower that he had just returned from Brooklyn, and all the talk was about how the UN was on the verge of banning religion.  They were just working out the logistics.

Another JW urban myth. 

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WTWizardRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson

I doubt that the UN will successfully ban religion.  There are many countries with official religions these days, and they would start a riot if they banned religion.  And I doubt, with all the legal doubletalk by the Watchtower Society, that they will be banned either.

Instead of banning religion, they should expose it.  When people see the fully integrated facts, they see how much of religion is a smokescreen.  And that goes double for the Watchtower Society, since they not only are based on a Bible that glorifies a value-destroying God, but they don't even follow it as they claim.

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daniel-pRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
They ALWAYS bring up how the UN will eventually ban religion. They've used this bit for as long as I can remember. It's extremely stupid though... Even if the UN wanted to, it would be completely un-enforcable, nevermind the fact that the UN has been superceded in power and initiative by the US/Britian world power.
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MaddieRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson

It's so obvious what they are up to with their fear mongering tactics to keep JW's in a state of anticipation. It's a tried and tested formula that has kept on working since the WT began.

Maddie

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real oneRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
correct.didnt they have relations with the un anyway ..so now i guess they(un) are the enemy...wow
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Seeker4Re: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
The POs are all going to Paterson for a week of schooling sometime soon. That's been posted on here for some tme.

In JWland it is ALWAYS "the end of the end times," "the last minutes (or seconds) of the last days," etc. I've been hearing that since I became a JW in the 1960s!

The UN banning religion thing is a constant JW rumor/myth. As has been mentioned, it'll never happen.

S4
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5goRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
Since when can the UN do anything much less ban something that a member (vatican city) just happens to be.
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willylomanRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson

When members of a group wake up every day praying for a miracle that will justify what they've been falsely teaching and forecasting for decades, they will grasp at any straw. That's what this dub is doing.

All U.S. elders (English language only) will be required to "go to school" at Blondie points out, above. This is on a staggered schedule with some complicated priority forumula. They've done this before. In 1976 or '77 they brought elders in from all over the country for two weeks of "training." The elder in our old congo returned with no visible evidence of having learned anything new, although his dub cred went way up.

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VM44Re: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
Is this "Special" elder's meeting really necessary?
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ferretRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson

The U.N. does not have the power to ban religion, it would have to be done by the various country governments. I doubt if you will ever see it happen.

 

Woody

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Jim_TXRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
"It was mentioned that we are now living "In the End of End of Times" and that the UN is talking about prohibiting religions."

I think that this should be translated to the 'IRS' talking about 'banning' religions... or more appropriately - requiring them to account for their income. This would not go too well with those in Crooklyn... err... I mean Brooklyn.

There have been several other religions that have gotten caught with their hands in the proverbial 'cookie jar' - and I have a feeling that there may be something working its' way through Congress - to make all religions accountable for the monies that they spend.

Regards,

Jim TX

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Frequent_Fader_MilesRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
The U.N. does not have the power to ban religion
I was wondering the same thing.  Seems like the various religions wield more power over the populace than the UN has over the world's countries ...
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VM44Re: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson

Is making religions (actually churches and religious organizations) pay taxes equated with "banning relgions"?

I see no problem with making religious organizations pay taxes. "Pay Caesar's things to Casesar."

Religious leaders get all bent out of shape and defensive though when the subject of taxing churches is brought up.

The Watchtower tells the JWs that Christians pay their taxes, but when France taxes The Watchtower it is a different story altogether with them!

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HermanoRe: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
How many times will they cry wolf?????
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sweetface2233Re: IMPORTANT: Elders Mtg at Patterson
Millions now living will NEVER die!!!!
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