Anyone get sucked in?
I always thought it was ironic how often they preached against this sort of thing from the platform, then were out in the parking lot trying to sell it to you.
TONS of elders defrauding folks this way..
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| avishai | MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
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| babygirl75 | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, Shaklee, etc... | |
My first husband & I got suckered in to attending a presentation, and it ended up being about Amway, we got the hell out of there as soon as I heard the word "pyramid". Pre-paid Legal is another big one... | ||
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| momzcrazy | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
When we were newlyweds there was a long distance plan going around our friends. We even went to a marketing meeting. It was like a circuit assembly! But we were so broke, we couldn't buy into anything. I know a guy I grew up with that got very wealthy off of Nu-Skin. Got in at the beginning. momz | ||
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| ex-nj-jw | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
JW's are suckers for this type of crap. My parents got into Shacklee. We had shacklee products out the wazoo! I wonder if they ever threw that crap in the garbage nj | ||
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| Robert7 | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
My wife was into one, and MLM as a concept is legit. Pampered Chef ($3 Billion company) and Avon are MLM. Of course there are tons of shady MLMs out there. What was interesting is that the WTS is SOOO much like an MLM. MLMs are structured so everyone is always recruiting. The tactics they use are so much like the Witnesses. My problem with MLMs is why don't they just sell on the store shelves if they're that great. Just like the WTS, why isn't the organization in such a way that makes people want to come (instead of recruiting) like many churches do. | ||
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| jaguarbass | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
I remember since we werent allowed to get an education that mlm was a big way to make big money. I remember taking shakelee vitamins trying to feel better from the depresion the wactower was giving me. | ||
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| nomoreguilt | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
EEEEEEEEYUP! We were all invited over tothis young coupes home for a CONG get together. OH, BOY! Now, I just used to love get togethers! I was usually the one chosen to cook for every body, organized that I was and all that. Ok, so we get there, I don't see too much of anything for food yet, just some coffee and cookies? Hmmm. no problem. We were all standing in the yard yacking, and then the hosts, invite everyone inside. We go down into the basement, and there IT WAS!!!! The very familiar SCAM WAY BOARD!!! Give me a break , will ya? The friends, a get together? AM WAY?? My ex and I left immediately. I think most of the others stuck around, just to be kind. KIND??? what, like the GB kind? I don't know how many times I got asked the question, So, brother, are you interested in making more money? Less time away from the ministry, more time for JAH? get over it friends, you DON"T do business with the bros!!!!!STOP! PERIOD! $$$$ In their pockets. GREED? Taking advantage of the brotherhood? Jesus throwing over the tables in the temple?? It's all here. | ||
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| SnakesInTheTower | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
avishai... OOOOHHHHH... DONT GET ME STARTED!. The last congo I was still an elder in had another elder/regular pioneer that is in that ACN (formerly LCI) telephone racket. I always noticed how he would cozy up to the UBM and get them involved and become their friend...take them to dinner, play golf, attend "business meetings"...but once they quit ACN...they couldn't get the time of day...not even "spiritually". He always seemed to cozy up to the single moms, widows, etc..... I recently ran into a JW sister (single divorced mom) at a local cafe bakery that told me she was supposed to meet him there. Turns out he had alsow recruited an employee of the cafe ....who you could tell has some mental defects..really nice fellow (non JW)....and a sure sucker for his attention. Same elder/pioneer will be out "in the ministry" and will take a "business" call...and keep counting his time because he "witnessed" to the "business associate" (by ending the call saying he was in the ministry..nothing else). Yet, he blasted me for walking away from a Same idiot elder got his hand slapped for wrongdoing several years ago, but nothing else happened. He is still a long time regular pioneer and elder. I was the only elder to object to his continuing on as a "good example" (between the wrongdoing and his fraud with ACN...he's a good example???!). I was forced to acquiece in the spirit of being "reasonable"...ugh.... Before you get involved in ACN...read this link and do the math...it is a no brainer...you cannot make money in this scheme. http://users.tns.net/~mpat/scam/ Snakes ( My mom sold Avon...at least she didnt recruit at the congo...and she sold a real product..not just selling the thought of selling... I think things have changed since she was in Avon. | ||
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)| Bumble Bee | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
Yep, my parents were suckered into Amway back in the '70's. They only joined to get the cleaning products, because of course they were cleaners! lol My sister in law was into Melaluca for a while, not sure if she still is or not. She signed us up, we said yes, because it's hard to say no to a relative (just made this mistake recently - it will be the LAST time I ever get involved in anything with a relative!!! There have been several others, there always seems to be something floating around the hall. BB | ||
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) We stayed on for a few months, never even tried to recruit anybody and couldn't afford to buy the products you had to every month and ended up cancelling. Waste of time and money!| Farkel | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
I will bring up something that has not been mentioned in this thread. I have said this for years, but this thread just confirms it: Despite their pleas to the contrary, Jehovah's Witnesses are among the most materialistic people I have ever known. They reek of it. They are very much here "in the now" get rich crowd, while shamelessly preaching that the "now" is not important, but the "new world/new order/ paradise" is what is important. They are liars, hypocrites and thieves who will prey on their own brothers/sisters with shameless abandon. I spit on such people. The JW Cult and culture is evil, it breeds evil, it foments evil, it cannot help (due to its nature) but produce a lot of evil, period. Farkel | ||
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| onacruse | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
Fark: The JW Cult and culture is evil, it breeds evil, it foments evil, it cannot help (due to its nature) but produce a lot of evil, period. I must take exception. Certainly there is, and always will be, a sector of the JWs (and any other religion, for that matter), that "eats its young" (a phrase I first heard, btw, when I was working at a billion-dollar construction company). However, in my own admittedly limited experience, that aspect was fairly uncommon at the KH. | ||
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| Homerovah the Almighty | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
True Farlel so very true...... big time hypocrites and exploitive crooks , with big smiles | ||
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| owenfieldreams | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
Trimline and Colors on Parade auto dent repair/decalling were big in the '80's and '90's in my area. In nearly all cases I'm familiar with they hired 90% or more of their staff from among the cong members, and most of them eventually went bankrupt. Jafra is another one that has surfaced in recent years. They are similar to Avon, and usually you will find that most of their 'beauty and skincare consultants' are pioneer sisters or elderettes... | ||
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| Farkel | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
onacruse, :I must take exception. Truly evil people ALWAYS take exception to what I say. That PROVES you are evil, you nitwit moron! mods take note: this is cleverly disguised to be a faux attack on that moron onacurse (sic). However it is really presented as harmless fun, since onacruse is such a stupid twit that he wouldn't notice the difference anyway. I'm in charge of his thorozine dosage. I know. Trust me. Farkel, of the major liars about his friends, Class. (See 3rd Timothy 3:9. If you losers cannot find that book, I have no use for you.) Plausabile deniability. I need Mark Garagos. | ||
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| Homerovah the Almighty | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
What onacruse has said may be true with an explanation that wherever the KH is located in regards to its social economic situation The poorer the locality the greater the chance of this activity would probably occur. I can remember going to halls in the most richest of areas and halls in the most poorest of areas and I did notice a difference in peoples social behavior Funny as it is the last personal encounter with a JWS was a fellow that was involved with off shores money investment schemes , much like a mLm or a pyramid scheme I'll let you know I did not take him up on his offer although he sure tried hard , further in the sales pitch it came out that he was to receive a money kick back if he could get me signed up.. Apparently a few months latter my brother tells me that his same guy lost $20,000.00 on this scam which he also tried to sell to my brother a true JWS idiot ! | ||
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| onacruse | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
roflmao @ Farkel. I can't recall that I've ever been called a nitwit, moron, and stupid twit, all in one post! And the name of the medication is Thorazine, you non-spell-checking incompetent | ||
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| Junction-Guy | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
There are few things that get me more riled up than the JW Cult, MLM schemes are one of them. They are almost cult-like, and they prey upon people who are trying to earn a decent,honest living. They put false hopes in people's heads. I went with Amanda to one of those Primerica sales pitches, and almost ended up arguing with the guy. Once I mentioned going home and doing some further research on the internet, he became really incensed. They want you to make some kind of commitment right there on the spot. | ||
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| Farkel | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
onawhatever, : I can't recall that I've ever been called a nitwit, moron, and stupid twit, all in one post! You can't recall anything. You lost your mind in 1967 in that commune in northwestern Oregon. :And the name of the medication is Thorazine, you non-spell-checking incompetent Yeah. I don't know much about it, and I defer in all reverence to someone (namely YOU) who's been using daily in for thirty years, mostly in an "in patient" environment. Of COURSE you know how to spell it, and I don't. I just learned how to spell "pot" a mere five years ago! Farkel, of the totally elitist hypocritcal jerkweed Class
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| onacruse | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
<---------disregarding Farkel...except for the "reverence" part: much deserved on my part, and far past overdue for his finally recognizing my supreme and pre-eminent stature in the ex-JW community. Let others beware, lest they suffer the same painful fate that Farkel just experienced. Now that I've disposed of that pathetic stinking beetle-ridden carcass...back to topic: Homerovah: Around here, there were two congregations that had a "rep" for money: Lake Oswego, and then Tigard. It was almost a given that if you attended the LO cong, then you had, or had access to, money. Tigard was sort of a yuppie thing: lots of young guys, vying to make the bucks, and wanting to get shoulder-to-shoulder with LO. Both got caught up in the MLM thing(s), with disappointing results. | ||
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| Farkel | Re: MLM schemes @ the hall, i.e Amway, , etc... | |
Hmmmm. Can't sort through all the logical fallacies here. My brain can only hold so many of them at one time. Onaloser said: : <---------disregarding Farkel... Well, of course, he never does that: :except for the "reverence" part: much deserved on my part, Fred Hall syndrome. Pat oneself on the shoulder until one wears out one's arm syndrom. Onaloser syndrome. It's all the same thing. :and far past overdue for his finally recognizing my supreme ...arrogance... ...and pre-eminent stature in the ex-JW community. Yeah. The only ex dub who was disfellowshiped for idiocy...in the entire history of ex dubs! :Let others beware, lest they suffer the same painful fate that Farkel just experienced. Fred Hall syndrome again! Speak jibberish and claim victory for it! :Now that I've disposed of that pathetic stinking beetle-ridden carcass... Redundant, moron. ALL beetle-ridden carcasses are pathetic and stinking. Sort of like your attempts at arguments! ..back to topic: You wouldn't know what a topic is if it bit you in your tushie! Mod alert: Onacruse and I are both liars. We are engaged in a co-conspiracy and the local CO is in on it, too! Farkel
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