Alan thanks for clarifying that point. The issue with CESNUR is that they refuse to accept organisations like the JWs and the scientologists are cultic and destructive in nature and ascribe all the bad press on them to disgruntled ex members. They are seeking to oppose governments like those of France and Germany that are unsympathetic and deeply mistrustful of such organisations. Yet most ex members know that these are dangerous, deceitful and wayward cults however the US government seems to back them in Europe on the pretext of protecting freedom of speech something the JWs for one totally suppress for their members.