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FarkelMatthew 25


I feel compelled to post this as it is an issue that concerns me greatly. It is an issue that I think is significant, and just my expressing myself may help me to get over some of the feelings I have for the cold-blooded way that dubs treat not only the "world," but those of their own.

It's long, but it's also long, so tough!

Jehovah’s Witnesses are not from God. Jehovah’s Witnesses are not from the Bible: they don’t follow it and they don’t act upon its instructions and commands unless it suits the interests of their religious leaders and the agenda of those leaders. While there are many, many examples to prove this fact, I am going to focus on just one right now. It alone is fully enough to illustrate just how un-Christian and un-Biblical Jehovah’s Witnesses have become in the last seven or eight decades.

One does not have to believe the Bible is inerrant or even God’s Word to use it as a yardstick by which to measure those who do: people who claim to follow it wholeheartedly and exclusively as the sole guide in their lives either follow it or they don’t. If they follow it, at least they have integrity in the beliefs. If they don’t follow it, they are hypocrites. If they REJECT by their actions some of the pure and clear and simple and unambiguous instructions, they are liars, slanderers, evil and condemned by virtue of the Bible’s words itself.

Jehovah’s Witnesses who follow all or most explicit instructions and “suggestions” from their religious leaders are one such group, a group who has rejected some of the very words of Jesus Christ himself in favor of a selfish and materialistic pursuit of eternal life.

While I have written articles in the past on the subject matter at hand, I’ve never used this particular chapter in the Bible to showcase just how much out-to-sea the religious leaders of Jehovah’s Witnesses really are.

We are going to consider chapter 25 of the book of Matthew. Jesus is speaking to his disciples in this chapter who would also be those very disciples who would soon become “spiritual leaders” in the various congregations to be set up after Jesus’ death, What did he say to them, then? My 1984 edition of the NWT has this caption at the top of the page: “Do good to brothers.” Sound good, doesn’t it?

Starting with verse 31 we read:

“When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.”

My, oh my. I wonder what would constitute a “goat.” No one wants to be a “goat” on the left hand of Christ do they? Let’s see:

“Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared from you from the founding of the world.”

(This single verse in itself presents some very interesting dilemmas, and I will likely comment on it at some time in the future, but to do so now would be off my topic of choice.)

“For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat, I got thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitably, naked, and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you came to me. Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to you? “

Here Jesus is working up to a very, VERY powerful conclusion. He knew full well that his disciples took care of him and his needs. After all, he was THE only-begotten son-of-God, and they WERE his loyal followers.

“And in reply the king will say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, To the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.”

What a powerful conclusion he made! Jesus was clearly stating that helping out the LEAST of their brothers was as good as helping out Jesus himself.

Now, let’s see how the WTS treats these simple and pure words:

*** it-1 342 Blessing ***
Doing good to Christ’s brothers, God’s “chosen ones,” brings Jehovah’s blessings to “the sheep,” with the reward of everlasting life.—Mt 25:31-34, 40, 46.

Uh, Jesus wasn’t talking about some lame “doing good” to any “chosen ones.” He was talking about specifically giving charity in a very material way to the LEAST of his brothers.


*** it-1 1151 Hospitality ***
Those showing hospitality and kindness to Christ’s “brothers” would be doing it because they recognized them to be brothers of Christ and sons of God. (Mt 25:31-46) In another statement he showed that not mere humanitarian hospitality would bring lasting reward from God but hospitality rendered to God’s prophets because they are recognized as God’s representatives, disciples belonging to Christ.—Mt 10:40-42; Mr 9:41, 42.

Notice how the society attempts to downplay the words of Jesus I’ve just cited. They draw the fire away from the very clear instructions to help those “least” brothers (and sisters) with food, clothing, shelter and succor and flat out state that humanitarian hospitality is just not enough. One must also show hospitality to “God’s prophets” because they are RECOGNIZED as “God’s representatives.” Hmmm. I wonder who they are talking about here. Could it be themselves?

In my very desperate attempt to see if the society actually not only advocated but promoted the words of Jesus I’ve quote so far, I turned up this gem:

*** w97 3/1 18 Happy Are Those Who Stay Awake! ***
The shortness of the time left for this system of things heightens the need for wholehearted activity as we search for those “rightly disposed for everlasting life.”—Matthew 25:31-46; Acts 13:48.

Huh? Jesus was NOT talking about selling MAGAZINES and books in Matthew 25. He was clearly talking about offering necessities of life in order to help other fellow humans physically survive.

Here is an example where the society twists Jesus’ instructions to make it appear that ONLY the anointed are his brothers:

*** w97 5/15 13 When Jesus Comes in Kingdom Glory ***
Foretelling the warm, loving support that these “sheep” would offer his anointed brothers, Jesus said to them prophetically: “I became hungry and you gave me something to eat; I got thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitably; naked, and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you came to me. . . . Truly I say to you, To the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.”—Matthew 25:35-40.

So, if the anointed are Christ’s “brothers,” then what are the non-anointed? Dog meat? Pond scum? Yes, and you can thank Da Judge for that. Between massive doses of alcohol and the finest of spirits during prohibition and after, he created a class system which divided the Christ and his followers. You non-anointed are NOT Christ’s brothers, you are Jonadabs, worker-bees, unwashed masses and dumb shits whose sole purpose in life is to SERVE those who have claimed to be of a higher “class” than you! And why? Because of an accident of birth, that’s why! Da Judge set the cut-off date to be or not to be “one of Christ’s brothers” at circa 1935. If you were a dub at that time, you are one of Christ’s “brothers.” If you were sadly unfortunate to become a dub after that time you are a schmuck who must SERVE, and care, and tend, and feed, and cloth, and supplicate Christ’s “brothers.” The Holy Spirits of Jack Daniels has dictated your eternal destiny, dear dub reader and you believe it. You don’t even qualify to be among the LEAST of Christ’s brothers he was speaking about. You’re a nobody who must suck-up to those “brothers” or face eternal death.

*** w97 9/15 17 Who Will Survive "the Day of Jehovah"? ***
By their zeal, cooperation, hospitality, and other good works, they bring great refreshment to Christ’s spiritual brothers yet on earth.—Matthew 25:31-46.

"5 Those who do good things for Jesus’ “brothers” because these anointed ones are his followers have the hope of surviving “the day of Jehovah.”

Jesus didn’t say squat about “zeal, cooperation, hospitality and other good works to Christ’s ‘spiritual brothers.’ He said “food, clothing, shelter and supplication.” The WTS will twist even the most beautiful and simple verses to suit their needs.


*** w97 9/15 31 Aristarchus-A Loyal Companion ***
Nevertheless, similar loyalty to Christ’s spiritual brothers and to Jehovah’s organization is necessary for all those in the Christian congregation today. (Compare Matthew 25:34-40.)

Jesus also didn’t say squat about “similar loyalty” to “Jehovah’s organization.” He was talking about “food, clothing, shelter and supplication” to the LEAST of the brothers. Will the society stop at nothing to demand robotic loyalty to themselves?

*** w95 2/1 12 A Great Crowd of True Worshipers-From Where Have They Come? ***
In this parable, Jesus showed that those thus given attention by the King would be judged on the basis of how they dealt with his “brothers.” (Matthew 25:31-46) Who are these brothers? They are spirit-begotten Christians who are therefore “God’s sons.”

I TOLD you that you non-anointed schmucks are not “Christ’s brothers.” You are nobodies who exist solely at their pleasure and to serve them and their whims. If the WTS is to be believed, Christ indeed has a divided house: the haves and the have-nots. The vast majority are have-nots who are ruled, manipulated, driven, worn out and discarded by only a dozen or so crème-de-la-crème of the “haves.” Some life.

I’ve only cited a few references to prove my point; there are dozens and dozens more I could call up, but I want to wrap this up. Before I do though, I want to show you why Jesus was SPECIFICALLY talking about helping brothers out in tangible and physical ways and not in some bullshit “spiritual” way in this chapter in Matthew. He could not be talking about anything else and here is why: could any human offer Jesus “spiritual food?” How could a human do that to the Son of God? NO! He was talking about CHARITY to fellow humans. Furthermore, there is only one reference I could find to the expression “spiritual food” and that is in 1 Cor 10:3 which simply states, “and all ate the spiritual food.” Yes there are references to “spiritual words,” “spiritual houses” and “spiritual gifts,” but only ONE small reference to “spiritual food.” Yet, the society has turned that simple expression into a whole BELIEF SYSTEM, and dubs and dub rags use that term dozens of times each week! The society has elevated a single short expression in the Bible into an entire Pharisaical system.

Back to Matt 25:

“Then he will say, in turn to those on his left, ‘Be on your way from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. For I became hungry, but you gave me nothing to eat, and I got thirsty, but you gave me nothing to drink. I was a stranger, but you did not receive me hospitably; naked, but you did no clothe me, sick and in prison, but you did not look after me.”

“Then they also will answer with the words, ‘Lord when did we see you hungry or thirsty or sick or in prison and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them with these words, ‘Truly I say to you, To the extent that you did not do it to one of these least ones, you did not do it to me.

In view of these ominous words from Jesus, the WTS has decided to totally ignore them and set their own standards for helping brothers and sisters.

*** jv 304-5 19 Growing Together in Love ***
Loving Help in Local Congregations
“Among Jehovah’s Witnesses, care for orphans and widows in the congregation, as well as for any faithful ones who experience severe adversity, is viewed as part of their worship. (Jas. 1:27; 2:15-17; 1 John 3:17, 18) “

No is isn’t, you liars, as we shall soon see:

“Secular governments generally make provision for hospitals, housing for the elderly, and welfare arrangements for unemployed people in the community at large, and Jehovah’s Witnesses support those arrangements by conscientiously paying their taxes. “

So this ‘caring for others as part of their worship’ is the simple fact that they pay taxes to governments which supports those who Jesus commanded them to help in the first place. Some “worship,” the paying of taxes! It’s REQUIRED.

“ However, recognizing that only God’s Kingdom can lastingly solve the problems of humankind, Jehovah’s Witnesses devote themselves and their resources primarily to teaching others about that. This is a vital service that no human government provides.”

It doesn’t matter that Jesus explicitly stated that the caring for the needs of their own in a most physical way was a major determining factor in their salvation or not, the mighty WTS has overruled that and stated the PRIMARY thing dubs should do is sell their magazines and books.

“In the more than 69,000 congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide, special needs that arise because of advanced age and infirmity of individuals are usually cared for on a personal basis. As shown at 1 Timothy 5:4, 8, the responsibility rests primarily upon each Christian to care for his own household. “

Oh, yeah? Well JESUS said the responsibility rests PRIMARILY upon those who wish to receive salvation, or not. He made that very clear in the verses I’ve already cited.

“ Children, grandchildren, or other close relatives display Christian love by providing assistance to elderly and infirm ones according to their needs. Congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses do not weaken this sense of responsibility by taking over family obligations.”

Jesus never talked about any “weakening” of responsibilities and I am outraged that this religion would dare use that expression. They are laughing at the very words of Christ himself and abrogating their responsibility because, simply speaking, they don’t want to be bothered and don’t want to spend the money.

“ However, if there are no close family members, or if those who have the responsibility simply cannot carry the load by themselves, others in the congregation lovingly come to their aid. Where necessary, the congregation as a whole may make provision for some assistance to a needy brother or sister who has a long record of faithful service.—1 Tim. 5:3-10.

Well, there you have it folks. Jesus made helping needy ones including the LEAST of the brothers (spiritually weak, lost, mentally deficient, etc.) a REQUIREMENT OF SALVATION and the mighty Watchtower Corporation has qualified Jesus statement to mean “where necessary,” "may make provision" (not a requirement, but an option) “long record of service,” and “faithful record of service.” How could the ‘LEAST of these, my brothers’ qualify for help with those regulations and policies? Where is the attention to the words that Jesus actually considered so important that he made eternal salvation dependent upon it?

A person who has a long record of service, but not necessarily “faithful” is screwed, and a person who has a very faithful but “short” record of service is also screwed. And even if a person meet every Pharisaical qualification dictated by the Watchtower Religious Printing Corporation there is still that stickly little "may make provision" they've slid in there.

To you dubs who are lurking, I want to say this: "Can you honestly say that nearly an entire Chapter of the Bible that is so clear and unambiguous should be taken at face value, exactly as it is stated, or not? Do you DARE to risk your eternal salvation on someone else's understanding of what Jesus meant by "my brothers?" Is it not possible that he was referring to people being willing to help out with charitable works towards the whole family of humans who are in fact his fleshly brothers? Since he was also human at the time he said it he could have meant exactly that, and was not just referring to his followers? Furthermore, do you think that Jesus in that chapter would further subdivide the whole family of human beings into not just his followers, but to a specific elite "Class" of his followers, i.e. those who claim to be anointed and ONLY his true 'brothers?' Would you risk your eternal salvation on such shit that was dreamed up by a drunken megalomaniac and that is now espoused and promoted by a bunch of senile high-school drop-outs as "truth?" Was Jesus making these very powerful and poignant points so that in the very last of the very last of the "Last Days(tm)" they would ONLY apply to some 8,000 people out of 6,000,000,000 people? Does this make sense to you? Will you risk your eternal future on such absurd reasoning?

What’s the final solution to humans who DARE question and twist Jesus clear and simple warnings? Oh, I think Matthew 25:46 sums it up quite nicely:

“And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.”

What you sow, you shall also reap, mighty Watchtower Pharisees.

Farkel
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RanchetteRe: Matthew 25
Farkle,
It was sooooooooo looooooong!!:)
But it is an excelent post as usual.
Glad your back
Ranchette
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wasasisterRe: Matthew 25
Me too...I like your back.
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jst2lawsRe: Matthew 25
Welcome back Farkel,
Being one who respects reasoning with the scriptures I liked most "could any human offer Jesus “spiritual food?” How could a human do that to the Son of God?"
But the overall concept was well applied from "To you dubs who are lurking" to "What you sow, you shall also reap, mighty Watchtower Pharisees."

Your rest has been good for you.
Jst2laws
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bluesapphireRe: Matthew 25
Farkel, I just posted this reply to another post but coincidentally, it is an living example, in practice, of what you describe in your post:

I remember one day towards the end of my JW life, a young Mexican man came into the hall just before the meeting. It was pouring rain outside. Thunder and lightening. The man came in to get out of the storm. He asked if it was a church to which I replied that it was. He must have thought it was a Christian Church because he asked for food. I said I would see what I could do. While I went to talk to my husband, I noticed a couple of elders suspiciously talking to the man. They had unfriendly and unhospitable looks on their faces. He only spoke Spanish so I went over.

I couldn't believe my ears. They were asking me to find out what he wanted. I told them that he was hungry. He had just come over the border and had no place to eat or sleep. The elders wanted me to tell him that we were sorry but we couldn't help him. Instead I told him to wait, my husband would help him. The elders did not like this because it made them look bad. I didn't want to bring a stranger home with us, but he was hungry. Plus, even if he was bull-shitting us, who cares? What's it gonna cost to feed the guy a McDonalds burger and fries? So he sat through the meeting (my husband had a part so we couldn't leave).

We went and talked to a few other elders. I couldn't believe that the very ones (one in particular) who made it a habit to be into everything that was none of his business - and I mean every little thing, were ignoring the situation and pretending it wasn't happening. It was not their concern. Nobody would pitch in $5 bucks to get the guy to a cheap motel. I was sick to my stomach. The same idiots who thought themselves high and mighty and oh so holy because they had repaired the CO's roof, didn't want to help a fellow human being. My husband and I took the guy to a motel and paid for it ourselves. We bought him dinner and told him where to go the next day to get a day labor job. It was the least we could do to not bring "reproach" on Jehovah's organization after the way the elders behaved. And it wasn't just the elders. It was the entire congregation. Afterwards we got slack for it. Everybody had something to say.

The thing is that I had worked for a Catholic rectory when I was a teenager. And daily people came asking for food. We always had food to spare. We had a closet full of canned goods and people would regularly donate meats and dairy products. Never did we turn anyone away. Many times all an illegal immigrant had to do was go to Mass on Sunday and he would make contacts for employment afterward while having coffee and donuts in the auditorium. My dad would oftentimes hire different ones to help him with yard-work and once they even stayed in our club-house in our backyard for a few days. We always gave them some of our family meals and we got to listen to their stories about their families back home and their plight. Those memories came flooding towards me.

I can tell you that I probably attended 10 meetings after this event. My faith in the organization had already begun to erode and this was just one more thing to chip away at the dissonance I had already acquired by this time. Such an obvious lack of love didn't go unnoticed by my kids either!

Didn't Jesus say that whoever sees a man hungry and doesn't feed him it was like doing it to Him? Those are the ones he will say, "Get away from me! I never knew you!"

The GB conveniently apply this scripture to themselves. They say that by selling their magazines we are doing it for the "least" of Jesus' brothers. But I ask, "How can this apply to them when they are not in jail? They are not naked? They are not hungry? So how could we follow Jesus' command to them? How can we visit them in jail? How can we clothe them when they're naked? How can we feed them when they're hungry?" Obviously, it applies to our neighbor.

Every time I see the magazines bragging about themselves and how they help victims of natural disasters even though they are not JW's. I just feel like barfing. They do nothing unless they can have bragging rights. Nevermind those who do things in silence, seeking their reward in heaven.

I think this lack of love is a great way to go. I am sure every JW will have a similar story. The lack of love is OBVIOUS.

See, Farkel, you are absolutely right. What you have is righteous indignation! These pathetic slime-bucket, sons of the devil, have taken Jesus' words and twisted them. They are EVIL!
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FarkelRe: Matthew 25
: See, Farkel, you are absolutely right.

I'm always right. (Except when I'm not!)

Farkel


"When in doubt, duck!"
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Yadira AngeliniRe: Matthew 25
Very good... I'm learning. Blessings. I like your name bluesapphire

Yadira Angelini
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crossroadsRe: Matthew 25
Farkel I always love reading your stuff,
It wasn't too long, what has been too long was your absence. Thanks for your time and effort .
Please write again real soon.
Peace and Love------Mark-----an apostate who if at all
posible will do what is needed for the down trodden,
are they the least of his brothers? I think so I believe
Jesus does too. I must be apostate because I think I
know what the Lord is saying there and I'm not one of
the FDS class.
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TinaRe: Matthew 25
(((((((((Fark))))))))))))Welcome back my friend!
Thanks for another excellent article! it just twists my gut the way they've misapplied so many scrips......
The way they've instituted classism,how charity is redefined to benefit only them. Sick sick sick. These folk take take ,take,take and wouldn't give ya ice in the winter. Thanks again(Im printing this out)luv ya,T
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Room 215Re: Matthew 25
Right on, Farkel,
I've often thought exactly the same thing about this parable and how mindless sectarian dogma vitiates its entire impact on JWs.
Limiting the interpretation of who Jesus' brothers obliterates its true meaning..by calling himself ``The Son of Man'' was he not embracing the whole human race as his family?
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metatronRe: Matthew 25
An excellent post. I've often thought about this text and
how they twisted charity into cult support and lost the
whole point of Jesus' words. Things like this make Witnesses
as self-centered as they are - and add to the lack of love
found within the organization.

metatron
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TheOldHippieRe: Matthew 25
So that was how deep your faith was rooted, Bluesapphire? If the posters could only stick to the principles discussed, and not post meaningless single events where the poster has not exactly neutral standpoints from the beginning onwards, even being able to read the hearts and minds and feelings of others ............
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Room 215Re: Matthew 25
It seems to me that the total lack of social conscience and the Hasidic-like contempt they hold for non-JW humanity, as well as the ``lukewarm''half of their own kind who lag behind in field service and meeting attendance, is their biggest obstacle to becoming a maintstream Millenarian relgion ala the Seventh Day Adventists.
In this respect, even the ``Plain Truthers'' who share so many of the WT doctrinal ideas, are light years ahead of the JWs when it comes to accepting a constuctive role in society at large.
I think that this, and not the bankruptcy of their chronology, is their cancer.
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Had EnoughRe: Matthew 25
Hi Farkel:

Your words touched me this morning. It brought back a flood of memories with your reference to the have's and the have not's in every congregation and how despite our smug opinion of ourselves at that time, yes there was a distinction, a favouritism.

And the "admonition" we received to show "charity" but it was to be of a spiritual kind to those who were hungry and needed clothes and help, just makes me cringe now. It makes me remember the times I pushed the desire to help someone materially with the excuse that "we can help them so much better with spiritual food...it will give them everlasting life". Too bad if they starved before they had a chance to read any of the mags. And "at least we didn't let them come the KH just to get something material...it had to be for the right reason..to learn about God."

I could go into detail but bluesapphire's account really sums the whole situation up vividly.

I feel moved by this because right at this time in my life I'm am happy to be here learning, getting stronger in my convictions even though what I'm learning can cause me upset and turmoil.

Someone near to me is giving me flack for coming here if what is done here is JW bashing. I don't consider this JW bashing....I call it exposing the truth. Yes, it is righteous indignation we feel all those of us who have been trodden down and are trying to pick ourselves up and get some sanity back into our lives.

Exposing the WTS's hypocrisy and deceit only strengthens me and I hope it enlightens anyone lurking here out of curiosity or is searching for answers and helps them to "make their move".
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joelbearRe: Matthew 25
Farkel,

I agree. The Watchtower Society blasphemes in 3 main ways.

1. They replace Christ and his sacrifice as the way to God with their earthly organization and claim it is the way to God.

2. They replace the command to love and care for all of humanity with the command to promote Watchtower doctrine through selling books.

3. They use up people's lives in service to them rather than allowing people to use their talents to make the world a better place.
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waitingRe: Matthew 25
Lord, I do get tired of saying.......I never *saw* it.

“For I became hungry and you gave me something to eat, I got thirsty and you gave me something to drink. I was a stranger and you received me hospitably, naked, and you clothed me. I fell sick and you looked after me. I was in prison and you came to me. Then the righteous ones will answer him with the words, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and receive you hospitably, or naked, and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to you? “

Here Jesus is working up to a very, VERY powerful conclusion. He knew full well that his disciples took care of him and his needs. After all, he was THE only-begotten son-of-God, and they WERE his loyal followers.

“And in reply the king will say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, To the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.”

Jesus was talking about physical things for his physical body. Food, shelter, sustenance - not spiritual matters. At the time this was written, all followers of his were his brothers.

The only way the WTBTS could turn this to their personal advantage was to make two groups - the elite chosen, and the others. The others are to take care of the chosen.

But they even turned that around again - if one of the chosen anointed was within a congregation and old, it was still their own family's responsibility to take care of the anointed. An old anointed sister in our congregation was taken care of by her worldly daughter - not the congregation. The sisters did help get her to meetings, field service, etc. - but not with the necessities of the body.

Bluesaphire Those kinds of things happened in our area too. I saw several instances where worldly people asked for help from elders - and they were turned away (when I asked - "well, they could have been lying and just wanted our money.") I was *dumb* enough to be the only one to give $5 for gas. 5 brothers there just said they had no money. I was ashamed of them - and this happened in the KH.

Thanks, Farkel!

Your writings always make me think - no small accomplishment! Hope this day greets you well and you smile a lot.

waiting
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EnglishmanRe: Matthew 25
Farkel,

I have to tell you, that was excellent and its being printed off right now.

Now who was that poster who said that he'd never read any of your stuff because he couldn't find it?

I don't expect him to reply, dubs aren't renowned for their courage.

Englishman.

..... fanaticism masquerading beneath a cloak of reasoned logic.
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JangRe: Matthew 25
Good to see you here again Farks .....

You are spot on with this!!!!!! Great article.

I got hauled to the back room for helping people who needed material support ..... had a young single mother of 2 girls stay with us for a month while she got a government flat, and then helped organize furniture etc from St Vincent De Pauls and the Salvation Army welfare(Horror!!)) ....

We also helped a sister in the congregation who had 2 children and needed wood for her heater. The temperatures were below freezing every night and they had nothing to keep warm .... We spent a Saturday gathering wood for her from the forest instead of door knocking ..... (Horror!!!)

Another sister was very sick after having her baby .... she almost bled to death. Isobel and I went over there every day and helped her get her children to school, clean the house, look after the baby and get the evening meal ...... of couse, we didn't have time for door knocking for about a month .... (Horror!!!!)

To Isobel and me, that was living the Christian life.

JanG
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You KnowRe: Matthew 25
Uh, Jesus wasn’t talking about some lame “doing good” to any “chosen ones.” He was talking about specifically giving charity in a very material way to the LEAST of his brothers.

You are laboring under an enormous load of ignorance, and because you are for the most part Biblicaly illiterate, you inevitably arrive at absurd and wrong conclusions. When Jesus speaks of his brothers, he is not speaking of all mankind. That's ridiculous. In the 8th chapter of John Jesus said that the Jews that rejected him were from their father---the Devil. Now, most folks, but assuredly not all, have enough common sense to realize that if two people have different fathers then they cannot be true brothers. So it is in a spiritual sense. Jesus was a Son of Jehovah God. Any whom he refers to as his brothers must also be born from Jehovah, making them sons of God also. Only the anointed and the angels are called sons of God in the Scriptures. For the most part the children of this world imitate their spiritual father, Satan the Devil, and therefore cannot be brothers of Christ. Unless a person has been born again by the spiritual reproductive seed of the heavenly Father, Jesus does not recognize them as his brothers.

So, if the anointed are Christ’s “brothers,” then what are the non-anointed? Dog meat? Pond scum?

The sheep who receive Christ's blessing for doing good to his brothers are the non-anointed. That's pretty plain to those who are not spiritually blinded by their own hubris and hatred.

The thing that makes your post the most laughable is that the Watchtower no longer teaches that the sheep and the goats are presently in the process of being separated. That is a future event. Since that final determinative judgment is yet future, the calamity that will put God's sons, Jesus' brothers, into the miserable situations described in the prophetic illustration have not unfolded yet. Hence, the sheep have not had the opportunity to show their loyalty to Jesus' brothers during their time of hardship, but, as we all know---it's coming. / You Know
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FarkelRe: Matthew 25
You Know,

: The thing that makes your post the most laughable is that the Watchtower no longer teaches that the sheep and the goats are presently in the process of being separated.

There are three things that make your post the most laughable:

1) The beginning
2) The middle
3) The end

It is not relevant whether the WTS now has a different understanding of when the separating of sheet and goats is to occur. What is relevant and what Jesus made perfectly clear is relevant is how one treats those in need before that judgement occurs. I know that for an apostate dub like yourself, this concept is extremely difficult for you to get, but I'll try again: Why do people like you find it so hard to accept that Jesus actually meant exactly what he said?

: That is a future event. Since that final determinative judgment is yet future, the calamity that will put God's sons, Jesus' brothers, into the miserable situations described in the prophetic illustration have not unfolded yet.

So, what are you going to do, You Know? Wait until the last possible moment to do some good for your fellow man, and hope you've done just enough to squeak through? Do you think Jesus and God are idiots and cannot see right through such selfishness?

: Hence, the sheep have not had the opportunity to show their loyalty to Jesus' brothers during their time of hardship, but, as we all know---it's coming.

They've had 2,000 years to do so, you moron. Dubs like you are just too selfish to join others who've been doing so all along, because to put it bluntly, you're a bunch of selfish bastards who think only for your own interests and are only concerned about doing what your clueless religious leaders tell you to do. And not a whit more.

You may think that my father is the Devil, but your father is Lyndon Larouche, a crackpot and liar in the league of Hal Lindsey. At least Satan never made any stupid false prophecies like you and those you worship have. Those who you claim have Satan for their father are working tirelessly to bring aid to destitute and starving humans throughout the world. Those who you claim have Jesus for their father are magazine-selling hate-filled religious bigots who care for none but their very own person.

Farkel

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