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LindaLu  Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW


Hi, I have been dating a very committed JW - He spent some time out of the organisation after a divorce and about a year ago has been granted a fellowship again. I absolutely adore him - and what is there not to Love! He is the most kind, sweet and lovable man I have ever met. Despite being an Atheist myself due to scientific reason - I was brought up as a very religious Christian - to the point of doing one year of theological studies at University. So I do respect and understand (more or less) his point of view... But I am duelling within myself and I do not know what to do... I certainly do not wish to give him up, but I am not sure to what extent his association with me will bring him guilty feelings and pain...
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R.F.Re: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
Hi, I have been dating a very committed JW - He spent some time out of the organisation after a divorce and about a year ago has been granted a fellowship again. I absolutely adore him - and what is there not to Love! He is the most kind, sweet and lovable man I have ever met. Despite being an Atheist myself due to scientific reason - I was brought up as a very religious Christian - to the point of doing one year of theological studies at University. So I do respect and understand (more or less) his point of view... But I am duelling within myself and I do not know what to do... I certainly do not wish to give him up, but I am not sure to what extent his association with me will bring him guilty feelings and pain...
 
Welcome to JWD!
 
I'm going to tell you this with complete honesty.....RUN!!!  I must say that if he is in this kind of relationship with you, he isn't a very committed JW, given the fact that he isn't supposed to be with someone outside of the Watchtower organization.  Be extra cautious, his loyalty to the organization can potentiall cause a hindrance in your relationship.  Do you think that he would eventually consider marriage to you?  Check around the boards.  I have never been married but there are many here with horror stories about being married to a JW when they are not one.
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blondieRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

I grew up in a family where dad was not a JW and mom was; what hell on earth that was.  I married a non-JW but I was not a committed JW.  My advice, stay away from any committed JWs; they will expect you to become one and/or their family will.  It will not be worth it.

Blondie

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nvrgnbkRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

R.F. makes some excellent points.

I'm sure your friend is a great guy. But his devotion to the religion is suspect if he has entered into a relationship with you. That could be a good thing. Just one problem. He could have a sudden change of heart after you get married, and decide to get into the religion hard-core. Then problems will arise.

I would, instead of walking away from someone you obviously care for a great deal, have a very sincere conversation with him about his beliefs. Who knows? You, being in a position close to his heart, may be able to reason with him.

Best wishes!

Nvr  

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HighlanderRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

Sure seems to be a lot of non-jdubs dating active jdubs.

His # 1 priority will be the jehovah's witness organization.  As my wife tells me,,  she loves jehovah more than she loves me. 

You will always play second fiddle to the jw corporation. 

What if you have kids?  will you object to your husband raising them as jw's?  If they need a blood transfusion,, will you allow your husband to withhold live saving medical treatment?

If your kids grow to be hardcore jws, they may shun you as an unbeliever.

At the very least they wouldn't be as close to you as to their jw dad.

You will also be under pressure from your husband to become a jw as he will be under pressure to convert you.

I'm married to a j-dub, however I no longer believe in this cult.  My marriage is a battle and I think I will ultimately lose my wife because of her beliefs.

Run like hell from this relationship.  An old friend of mine(you know who you are )   told me to reconsider my marriage,, I wish I had listened.

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helnconRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

I married a non-JW too though me not being very comitted to it all. My mum tried to convert him and he came to a few meetings and memorials, but that didn't last.

Honestly i would say RUN!!! As much you may be in love with him you will have nothing but heartache and be torn into 2.

With the decisions of birthdays christmas and all the other holidays it may be fine not for you to worry about them but what happens when you have children will you subject to them missing out on all the activites and all the other ones like giving up extra sporting games association with friends them having to go to the meetings being a subjecive partner.

There is a lot to consider don't make a light decision.

Helen

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DJKRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

My dad became a Jehovah Jumpbug two years after he married my mother. She never liked it. He made her go to meetings many times and our family traveled for conventions every year. Mom always had to go to the conventions. She was a slave to him. There was never any affection in our home even between my parents. When my mom died, my dad never grieved.

I have to agree with other posters, if he is commited, you should get out. 

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nvrgnbkRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
As my wife tells me,,  she loves jehovah more than she loves me. 
            As would any good JW wife or husband.
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HighlanderRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
As my wife tells me,,  she loves jehovah more than she loves me. 
            As would any good JW wife or husband.
That reminds me.  My own mother told me that same bulsh$t statement about 2 months ago.
 
The conversation went something like this:
 
Mom says:   I want you to know I love you, but I love jehovah more.  You are an apostate, so I have to limit my association with you, to that of important family business.
 
I asked her to define family business and her response was that if somebody dies, then she will contact me to let me know what has happened.
 
 
 
 
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nvrgnbkRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
Mom says:   I want you to know I love you, but I love jehovah more.  You are an apostate, so I have to limit my association with you, to that of important family business.
 
I asked her to define family business and her response was that if somebody dies, then she will contact me to let me know what has happened.
 
             Ask her if she'll allow you to care for her if she becomes an invalid, or is that privilege reserved for Witnesses in-good-standing only?
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Who are you?Re: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
and what is there not to Love!
The constant unending totally unneccessary drama that will cloud your days for the rest of your life if you continue pretending that what your gut tells you....is not so.
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fiveangelsRe: Re: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
i also am in love with a very committed JW and he says he will always love me,now he says he can't see me any more because he is servicing and doesn't want to get caught being with me-it hurts so muchI don't want to lose him and don't know what to do.please help!
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neverendingjourneyRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

LindaLu and fiveangels:

The Jehovah's Witnesses religion demands exclusive loyalty from its members.  If your boyfriends become committed members, their loyalties will be divided.  You see, JWs are taught that it's a sin to marry another non-JW.  There will be consequences for them in the congregation if they continue their relationships with you.  They will eventually have to choose between continuing their relationships with you and becoming members in good standing in the congregation.  If they choose their relationship with you over the religion, there's hope.  If they don't, you are in for some tough times.  They will be allowed to remain members of the church even if they continue to be with you, but they will be constantly looked down upon.  Expect pressure to convert to their religion.  The congregation will view you as a mistake that needs to be remedied.  There are several non-JW members of this forum married to JWs who will be able to share their stories with you.  Think long and hard about what to do next.  Welcome to the forum.

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AlmostAtheistRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
>>he says he will always love me,now he says he can't see me any more

I'm sorry, but you have your answer right there. According to JW teachings, he should not be friends with you, let alone have a romantic relationship with you. There is constant pressure on JW's to separate themselves from all non-JW's. I'm very, very sorry about this, I can hear your intense feelings. But for your own happiness, you need to move on from this relationship.

Dave
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HighlanderRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

Seriously,

Why are there so many new posters that are non-dubs and dating active dubs?

Or is someone out there just yanking our chain?

On the other hand, maybe this is a sign that things aren't what they seem to be among the 'happiest people on earth'.   

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nvrgnbkRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
>>he says he will always love me,now he says he can't see me any more

I'm sorry, but you have your answer right there. According to JW teachings, he should not be friends with you, let alone have a romantic relationship with you. There is constant pressure on JW's to separate themselves from all non-JW's. I'm very, very sorry about this, I can hear your intense feelings. But for your own happiness, you need to move on from this relationship.

Dave
            Big Huge Freakin' Ditto!
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GayleRe: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

 

And, there's another phenomenon I often saw, when a young man left the JW organization but later got a girlfriend or married, he'd get her totally into the organization, then eventually leave the organization again "and" the girl or wife.  Ironic!!

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R.F.Re: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
i also am in love with a very committed JW and he says he will always love me,now he says he can't see me any more because he is servicing and doesn't want to get caught being with me-it hurts so muchI don't want to lose him and don't know what to do.please help!
 
My advise to you is to forget about him.  Find someone that will love you unconditionally.  The organization is supposed to be the number one priority for JWs, including any family ties.  Trust me, he's doing you a BIG favor.
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SnakesInTheTower Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW

LindaLu...good advice from all on the board so far......nothing more I can add to YOU..... however.....

five angelsWelcome to JWD forum.    Heartwrenching first post.  I hope you will keep posting.  Please start a new thread (new topic) and tell us more about yourself.  We welcome you with open arms and want to know about you and will encourage you the best way we can.  There are a lot of great folks here.

Attempting to stay on topic, the advise given to LindaLu by some of the other posters applies to you as well. 

now he says he can't see me any more because he is servicing and doesn't want to get caught being with me

"gettng caught"  WTF?  The good thing is he has finally ealized now that he cant have his cake and eat it too.  Better you know that now than later.  Too bad he had stomp on your heart for him to realize that.

I don't want to lose him

5 angels  ...hon, you have already lost him.  You don't say how long you dated or how old you are.  But he went against the JW religion rules by dating you in the first place.  IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT.  He already has a mistress, her name is "Jehovah's Witnesses" and he is indebted to her.  You would always be the "other woman" if you had married him.  JW comes first, everything else second.  If he gets married, he needs to marry a fellow JW so they can be miserable slaves to that religion together.

Move on, tough as it is.  (By the by, I would not date a JW now because I am on the way out of the organization, or at least will never be "whole hearted" to it again.  If I find a nice non-JW girl who loves me for what I am and not because I have a title in a man made religion, then I am going to date and/or marry a non-JW girl and get the hell out...never thought I would ever think THAT let alone admit it here)

SnakesInTheTower (of the not dating a JW Sheep  Class)

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VanillaMocha73Re: Back to the topic - I am in love with a JW
My parents broke up - mom a JW and dad not. Cost me two parents in my teen years and untold heart ache and series of disasters since....
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