JW infant dies after parents refuse red cells

AJWRB member Sam Believer has brought the recent death of a Jehovah's Witness infant to my

attention. This story has been carried by the CBS Dallas affiliate and you should view the story here:

Head to http://ktvt.dayport.com/launcher/1883/?tf=video_player.tpl to check it out.

This is the kind of development that deserves our serious attention. Please pass the word to everyone

you know in the JW and ex-JW community as well as related medical, ethics, legal, children's rights

groups.

There is no need to sensationalize this story. The facts should speak for themselves. If anything, we want to

focus attention on the absurdity of the WTS policy which permits the use of hemoglobin but forbids the

use of the red cells which this infant needed. The red cell is nothing more than a doughnut shaped bag

of hemoglobin. 97% of the dry weight of the red cell is hemoglobin. So technically the WTS is banning

the 3% which constitutes the red cell membrane. This is an absurd policy that forces individuals like

these parents to abandon reason and human nature, effectively sacrificing their children to support

a man made prohibition that is entirely lacking in Biblical support since the medical use of blood and

blood products in no way involves eating or digestion to sustain or nourish life.

Your assistance in getting the word out about this development is both needed and appreciated.

Lee Elder

AJWRB

Moderators - please post to all appropriate directories if possible - thank you.

Another life uselessly wasted to a stupid book selling corporation's policies for it's sales force.

   F@#$$  up

That is horrendous!  I am glad about the judges decision, hopefully the other baby will survive.

Boy is this topic loaded with issues. 

But I hope those parents live a long, long life.  I hope they remember that their hesitation, and the the delays necessary to take the issue before a judge, killed thier baby.   

But it may be better for them if they went and found a bridge abuttment at about 100 miles per hour.  Self-righteous, blind bastards - no doubt they were backed, emotionally and physically, by that damnable HLC/

The shame of ever having been part of those loons.

dang, got all caught up and watched the whole darn ch 11 newscast.....silly me

Its so sad that this happened....All because these dumba** old geezers up there won't just admit they are wrong and let people be saved. I think something similiar to this was the turning point for my dad too. A close family friend got sick and needed an organ transplant but was too weak to transport to another hospital to get the transplant because she needed blood.....she didnt make it...i think that really took a toll on my dad....

I have posted this in other places but a example that my brother used one time really made me say hmmm and you're right....

no matter how many times you divide it, seperate it, shake it up, what have  you...you're still dealing with BLOOD....just like water you can freeze it, boil it to make steam and other stuff but you're still dealing with water.....

I'm praying the other baby survives....

Just add the name to the long list of other Watchtower victims.

When will they stop their insane rampage?

Andy

A 2lb baby has a hard time surviving no matter what. This is very sad. I can't imagine, also this other twin has lost their sibling.

The JWs will use it all to their benefit saying that the blood killed their child, trust me, they make it a whole big thing.

I wonder how the parents will feel when the society changes its mind on red blood cells!

Imagine what these parents will feel when they realize that they have been duped! What an awful price to pay for obeying the dictates of a publishing company.   An innocent life stolen.

How is it that the "symbol of life" is more important than the life?

Coffee

As stated in the news article, adults can make these decisions for themselves, children need to be allowed to grow up to make these decisions for themselves.

In 1971 I was just starting to study with the JWs when a JW family in the area had triplets that needed blood. Of course they refused. Court ordered  was gotten and blood was given to the weakest one, who died because it had taken too long. The JW spin of course was that the one who got blood died and the two who didn't survived.

The interesting thing is, the two who survived have left the cult some years ago. So now as adults, what would their decisions be if they needed blood?

Oh, and when I got to know the family some years later, I asked her about it and she said that she had been told she was having twins, so she still had the two so she did not miss the third one. Cold hearted bunch, they are.

 

Target

 

I can't get the link to work??

This is so inanely stupid. To deny an infant a chance at life over a man made, not religious, point of veiw.

I don't know if it's just me but I would compare this to abortion in respect to the JW's veiw of abortion. They veiw abortion as wrong because:

"We cannot make a descision to take human life, only the creator can judge and decide"

Have these parents not made a decision that has taken/ terminated their baby's life? How is this any diffirent than abortion?

                                                                              Dragonlady76

Is there an article we can read ?

Passing around a video is not as easy as it is copying and pasting and emailing verbatim text from a news article.  Please provide one as soon as possible and the word WILL get out.

By the way, hello blindrzoff.  Welcome to the forum.

Thank you, sKally

For those who can't open the link, I've transcribed it:

Karen Borta (anchor): Tonight, a local hospital is forced to go to court to provide urgent medical care for a baby.

Tracy Rowlett (anchor): This case pits religious beliefs against the law, and it all started when twins were born prematurely at Baylor Medical Center in Dallas. When their parents would not consent to life-saving medical treatment, the hospital then went to court. CBS 11's Jack Fink joins us live tonight with the exclusive details. Jack?

Jack Fink (reporter): Tracy, court documents show the couple would not consent to the treatment because it would violate their religious beliefs. A judge has sided with the hospital and ordered the treatments, but we've learned that one of the twins has since died. Court records show Tara (?) and Embre (?) Speciale were born on Valentine's Day. Each weighed less than two pounds. But the next day, the Baylor Medical Center in Dallas filed a petition in court, asking a judge to intervene. Doctors said the children would likely need a transfusion of red blood cells, which would enable the children's blood to carry sufficient oxygen to sustain life.

But the baby's parents are Jehovah's Witnesses, and it is against the Jehovah's Witness religion to accept such treatment. Doctors told the judge: "If the blood product treatment is delayed, there is a significant risk of death or serious complications." Thomas Mayo, a professor at SMU and a medical ethicist, couldn't comment on this specific case, but says in general the law supports the hospital's position.

Thomas Mayo: What they're not entitled to do under the law is to withhold blood transfusions from their minor children.

Jack Fink: In his order, Judge Robert Frost prevented the babies' parents from disrupting or interfering with the treatment. The Judge also ordered that Baylor Medical Center provide all treatment that is reasonably necessary to stabilize the condition or prevent death.

The babies' parents didn't return our calls seeking comment, and the hospital declined commenting on the case. Professor Mayo says there is a simple rationale for the law.

Thomas Mayo: An adult is entitled to make that decision for himself or herself, and that minor children have a legal right to grow into adulthood and make that decision for themselves when they are old enough.

Jack Fink: Now Jehovah [sic] Witnesses we spoke with say they have a very high regard for life and that they are not anti-medicine. They say they try to find doctors who use treatments other than blood transfusions.

We're live in Dallas tonight, Jack Fink, CBS 11 News.

Thank you, Euphemism, for transcribing the video clip for all of us who are unable to watch it on our older computers.



NewLight2

the parents should be burried alive.

Someone had said it on another thread about a implosion of the borg. I really do believe that IF and thats a big IF they ever admit or weaken the stance even further on the blood issue...People that have lost loved ones due to these issues will totally lose faith unless they are so totally brainwashed that they just take the new light and not even think about their loss......I just feel a storm a' comin really soon....we're just in the quiet part now.....