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nicolaouCould religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?


Religious believers clearly have tendencies to make-up "facts" and "evidence" rather than accept true research and admit even the simplest of belief failures. They have strange ceremonies that are virtually pointless but are said to have special significance or power.

We all know certain 'Christians' alive today who are fully prepared to argue that they might never die!  Couldn't it be argued that such a reversion into childlike fantasy is a telltale sign of mental illness?  Isn't it a self-replicating insanity when part of the illness drives the sufferer to convince others to regress to their level and contract the same illness?   Sounds severe, almost like a pandemic.

Some might go as far as to call religious belief a contagious disease.

 

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R.CrusoeRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

If you are alone - wherever you are - you will be the minority = mental illness by disassociation. 

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BurnTheShipsRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

Mental illness is a health problem that can change the way a person thinks, feels, makes decisions, deals with others, or copes with everyday life. Someone with a mental illness may experience a number of problems that may make it difficult for them to lead a normal life. Mental illness is NOT contagious. It is not like a cold or the flu. Just like you can't catch bad eyesight or asthma from someone, you can't catch mental illness.

Perhaps you are mentally ill.

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real oneRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
I think anyone that would choose being tortured for the rest of their lives instead of living a happy pain-free life is mentally ill. I have Jesus to look foward to meeting. What do you have to look foward to? 
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JeffroRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
Two words... J Canon.
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GopherRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

If religious belief (or any belief) is taken to great extremes, there could be mental illness.

However, religious belief is so imprinted into many societies that it is hard to argue that mere belief equates with mental illness. People want to believe there is more than just this life. Various cultures and their religions offer different solutions to the "purpose of life" question.

Non-believers simply think that this life is its own purpose. Those I've communicated with have accepted this and it has motivated them to make each day count.

I don't think wishing for more than this life is a bad thing, but it may not be realistic either.

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hamilcarrRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

I don't think this kind of discussions promote a better understanding of each other's views. Mental illness is just a label often used in authoritarian regimes to suppress divergent opinions. When it comes to believing / non-believing, both views can equally be defended, for instance:

Is Atheism a Sign of Mental Illness? 

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JeffroRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
Religious beliefs, even irrational ones, are not in themselves a sign of mental illness, though many are a sign of gullibility.

But a religious/superstitious person who hears voices is less likely to seek diagnosis of a mental illness if their religion allows/encourages them to believe they're the voices of god/angels/spirits etc.
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SironaRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

Where do I start?

I agree that someone is less likely to see a psychiatrist if they sincerely believe that any "voices" they hear are simply angels (or spirits). 

I do however take exception to the inference that anyone who believes they have communication from the "other side" is mentally ill.  

In the DSM and other official manuals we see set criteria for diagnosis of mental illness.  In times past, mental illness has been diagnosed and a person labelled without proper evidence - resulting in inappropriate treatments being given and a general deterioration in the patient due to the misdiagnosis.  It is important to state what we really mean by "mental illness".

I will probably regret this, given the environment I'm in, but let me use myself as an example.  I function in life very well.  I am not plagued by destructive thoughts or "voices" and my life is totally normal.  However there are times when I choose to participate in a spiritual service, during which I often experience phenomena which could be labelled "supernatural". 

I am totally aware of arguments which indicate that someone is using self hypnosis in this scenario.  Whether that be the case or not isn't really under debate.  What is under debate is whether I'm mentally ill or not.  The answer is that I am not, yet I experience (at my will) things which could be labelled as spiritual experiences.

I have seen spirit beings and I have had communication from spirit beings.  Again, these are controlled (by me) and are never disturbing to me.  Interestingly, many of these communications reveal information which I couldn't have known and which can be verified - either by someone present or later as things transpire.

I would love science to eventually find a way to measure and prove spirit communication.  Experiments have been conducted which show a significant result with regards to extra-sensory communication.  These experiments are currently being replicated by those with funding.  Many experiments have already shown a significant result beyond chance on things which you appear to be labelling "evidence of mental illness".

Mental illnesses where the individual hears voices and sees visions exist of course - I have studied various mental illnesses and their causes.  This does not mean, however, that every individual who experiences extrasensory perception is mentally ill.

Sirona

 

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THE GLADIATORRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

Yes religion is a sign of mental illness contagious disease. Just look at Islam and the madness that grips its millions of adherents. They all think they have Allah to look forward to. Jehovah’s Witnesses have Jehovah.

Real one, who is anything but, thinks that he/she has Jesus to look forward to. Only Jesus? You are being short changed.

As The Roman Gladiator I have my Roman Gods and Goddesses to look forward to. Here are just few of them.

Apollo - the god of the sun.

Bacchus - the god of wine.

Ceres - the goddess of farming and the Earth.

Cupid - the god of love.

Diana (mythology) - the goddess of the moon.

Fortuna - the goddess of luck.

Janus - the god of doors.

Juno - the queen of the gods.

Jupiter - the king of the gods.

Mars - the god of war.

Mercury

Pluto - god of hell (the underworld).

Venus (mythology) - goddess of love and beauty.

Vulcan - the god of fire.

I thank my Gods every day that I live a life free of illusion and have so many Gods to protect me in the arena and receive my soul if they should fail to deliver me from the hands of sinners. I pray for deluded Christians and Muslims

 

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JeffroRe: Re: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
I will probably regret this, given the environment I'm in, but let me use myself as an example. I function in life very well. I am not plagued by destructive thoughts or "voices" and my life is totally normal. However there are times when I choose to participate in a spiritual service, during which I often experience phenomena which could be labelled "supernatural".
People can employ various techniques that involve controlling their breathing, heart rate, and so forth - sometimes with the aid of drugs but not necessarily - and an altered state of consciousness can result. (I am not convined that such states are necessarily healthy, mainly due to things like hypoxia rather than any risk of scary 'demons'.) I don't go in for that stuff. But I have a close friend who uses meditation a lot - crystals, power of the universe, that kind of thing, but not the drugs. She has described some of the experiences she's had while meditating and some are quite interesting. I don't believe that spirits are imparting things to her during these meditation sessions. I believe it fits into the category of altered brain chemistry due to deliberate actions, which sets it apart from mental illness. Just as the physiological state of being drunk is not a mental illness, neither are such meditative states.
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real oneRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
Gladiator, You must know these gods you have mentioned are false gods. Only Jehovah is the true God. You are not free of illusion if you think these gods will do anything for you. God is alive and actively working in my life. What are your gods doing for you? I will pray for you to Jehovah the All-Powerfull Mighty God!
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THE GLADIATORRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

real one

Now I am confused. You have Jesus and The Mighty Jehovah. I am impressed. Two Gods are better than one.

Still - Its not about size, it is a numbers game. Your Gods may be bigger but I have more. It would be ideal if we could get them all in the arena and let them fight it out God to God.

Please keep praying for me to your big God. He may stop me from becoming deluded or mentally ill. 

May your Gods go with you

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real oneRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
Gladiator I believe in the trinity God the Father, the son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit, any one of these Gods can take care of all of your gods with one breath. 
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GopherRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

Real One,

You need to broaden your view a bit. Note that the topic of this discussion is "religious belief" and not "belief in the Christian God". Two-thirds of the world's population does not believe in the Christian God. Their view of God is quite different than yours. The topic of belief (or non-belief) applies equally to those outside the world's Christian population too, and it also would apply to the Romans and their gods in their day.

You're so sure that yours is the only possible god (or trinity of gods) that it's really off-putting.

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Mr. MajesticRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

I have seen that faith can promote some ones emotional well being, which might signify good emotional health. But I wonder, deep down, at what cost might it be to others…….. e.g. JW family seems very happy and balanced, but they rejected their son for asking difficult questions. Son is therefore a scapegoat. Their denial costs the son his well being, despite him not being deluded…. Wouldn’t say that is emotional equilibrium despite outward appearances to the contrary…..

Faith does seem to have very similar characteristics to the denial seen in neurosis. Delusion tends to be a major factor in some religions sense of grandeur. I don’t know if it is a sign of mental illness per say but I would see that the potential of someone exposed to it for a prolonged period could suffer from mental illness, if they didn’t start off with mental illness in the first place. Delusion and denial, in any form, must indicate something that is either very close to, if not, a mental condition…

Question is, who doesn’t, in some way or form, suffer denial and delusion in some aspect of their perception….??

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keyser sozeRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
Gladiator, You must know these gods you have mentioned are false gods.

Why must he know this? Is the god of christianity any less ground in fantasy and superstition than gods of other faiths? Other gods are just as real to those who believe in them as yours is to you. If your god is so supreme and omnipotent, why is there a large portion of the world that has never heard of him? If he is so loving and just, why does he not afford them the same opportunity to be saved?

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bigdreauxRe: Re: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
Gladiator I believe in the trinity God the Father, the son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit, any one of these Gods can take care of all of your gods with one breath. 
my god can beat up your god. hahahahahahahaha what a douche
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Homerovah the AlmightyRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?
JCanon , OBVES, Realone..... that should answer your question plainly , not to mention the folks in mental institutes that say they are Jesus Christ   
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wingsRe: Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

No.

Could religious beliefs be a significant part of delusions within mental illness. Absolutely!

wings (who knows a bit about mental illness)

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