NEW BOOK Take Back Your Life

by Lady Lee 7 Replies latest watchtower medical

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  Lady Lee

  I emailed the publisher this morning and did not expect to hear from him at least until Monday. But I have my response already.

  The book can be found at the publisher's website

  http://www.baytreepublish.com/take-back-life-fr.html

  The publisher states:

  The books should be arriving Monday, so Amazon should have them within a week.

  The link to the Amazon website for Take Back Your Life is:

  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0972002154/qid=1146929501/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-0070237-1537472?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

  The publisher also mentions another book that might be of interest to many:

  Them and Us: Cult Thinking and the Terrorist Threat by Arthur J. Deikman, M.D.

  Cult thinking is not something out there—a rare affliction that infects a few people on the margin of society—but a disturbing phenomenon that most of us have experienced in some degree. In Them and Us: Cult Thinking and the Terrorist Threat, author and psychiatrist Arthur Deikman shows the connection between classic cult manipulation and the milder forms of group pressure that can be found in even the most staid organizations—churches and schools, mainstream political movements and corporate boardrooms. In her foreword, Doris Lessing discusses the implications and repercussions of cult thinking on contemporary society .

  This book is not listed at Amazon.com
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  lovelylil

  LL,

  Thanks for the news, I am going to get a copy. Have a great day
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  Lady Lee

  The publisher of Them and Us will be sending me a review copy of the book. I'll give you all a rewiew of it once I read it.
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  hubert

  Thanks for the heads up, Lady lee.

  Hubert
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  chaiyah

  My experience with the psycho-psychiatric community is that they gloss over, completely, the inner relationship between a human's heart and the heart of God. They don't get it; they talk around it. Loving God, who's not "in the room" is a matter that psychology doesn't abide with at all; and it doesn't matter which church you find as a sanctuary after leaving the Witnesses. Psychiatry will try to talk you out of all spirituality because they are strictly behaviorist; and psychology will try to talk you right in to the Occult and New Age unitarian/universalist concepts. I don't know if that's where you want to go. And I don't know whether that (reverting to agnosticism or the Occult) is a better place than being a programmed mind-controlled Witness. My choice was to stay with Jehovah and become an itinerant in the world, just as Jews in the Diaspora are itinerants. And my testimony is, that's not a bad option. I've attended a lot of different churches, with no apparent harm to myself; and I have allowed Jehivah God to Guide my steps. (No, I've never related very strongly to Jesus, because I grew up in a Jewish family in the first place.) In the process, I have left behind fear, rejection, shame and the sense that I had no place in the world. I had adrenal tumors six years ago that threatened to kill me; but they went away--or at least their symptoms did. I'm okay now. I hope, whatever path you find to take, that your experience will be freeing, as mine has been. : ) Emily
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  bernadette

  My experience with the psycho-psychiatric community is that they gloss over, completely, the inner relationship between a human's heart and the heart of God. They don't get it; they talk around it. Loving God, who's not "in the room" is a matter that psychology doesn't abide with at all; and it doesn't matter which church you find as a sanctuary after leaving the Witnesses. Psychiatry will try to talk you out of all spirituality because they are strictly behaviorist; and psychology will try to talk you right in to the Occult and New Age unitarian/universalist concepts.

  I hae been for counselling and did not find that they talked me out of spiritually but enabled me to go in the direction that was most beneficial for me personally

  Many years ago I was offered stress management with a clinical psychologist but was told more or less what you have said above 'they will try to talk you into the Occult and New Age unitarian/universalist concepts'

  I wish I had not listened to that JW teaching at that time.

  Bernadette
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  Lady Lee

  chaiyah

  My experience with the psycho-psychiatric community is that they gloss over, completely, the inner relationship between a human's heart and the heart of God. They don't get it; they talk around it. Loving God, who's not "in the room" is a matter that psychology doesn't abide with at all; and it doesn't matter which church you find as a sanctuary after leaving the Witnesses.

  The book Take Back Your Life addresses the issue of spirituality in one of its chapters and in other places in the book. It has a checklist to help people determine the level of manipulation and control before getting involved with another group or religion.

  I do agree that many therapists try to avoid the subject of spirituality. But as a retired counselor I never did. Spirituality is a part of the whole person and I was taught to honor the whole person. I had several non-exJW as well as xJW clients who had to work through issues of spiritual abuse. It was my job to help them recognize abuse regardless of what mask it hid behind.

  Psychiatry will try to talk you out of all spirituality because they are strictly behaviorist; and psychology will try to talk you right in to the Occult and New Age unitarian/universalist concepts.

  You have got to be kidding. In 20 years of working in the field I have never once seen or heard of this. Do some therapists do this? Yes. But to paint the whole profession with the same brush is manipulative and wrong
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  My MILs worst nightmare, a nonJW

  Psychiatry will try to talk you out of all spirituality because they are strictly behaviorist; and psychology will try to talk you right in to the Occult and New Age unitarian/universalist concepts

  Chaiyah, I don't want to hijack this thread as LL's book recommendation will no doubt benefit people, and since your post contains no reference to anything LL posted, it seems oddly out of place. Since you are an author, I would guess that you would be sensitive to others commenting about what they think that your book might contain before actually reading it. Would you do me a favor and begin a seperate thread elaborating on this concept highlighted above? It so completely goes against my experience being raised as a Unitarian Universalist, going to college and studying Psychology, and my personal experience of talk therapy with a trained professional.

  LL please forgive my intrusion.