This is a thread that makes one think in parallels, comparing lives of two different men. I in no way thought of the men as equals morally or spiritually because of what was written here. One man would kill you quickly if you crossed him the other man would kill you mentally if you crossed him. When you consider the devotion given to Rutherford (yes devotion) in the name of the WT god, cast out adherents are as dead to other members and to themselves in most cases.HCM