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Letter from a District Overseer

    Farkel Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:22:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit




    Post 5826 of 8302
    Since 3/14/2001

    I recently came across this letter from one District Overseer to an Elder:

    "You did well in silencing the unspeakable teaching of the Apostates. From these are the "wandering stars" referred to in the prophecy, who wander from the narrow road of the commandments into a bondless abyss of the carnal and bodily sins. For, priding themselves in knowledge, as they say, " of the deep things of Satan," they do not know that they are casting themselves away into the nether world of the darkness of falsity, and boasting that they are free, they have become slaves of servile desires. Such men are to be opposed in all ways and altogether. For, even if they should say something true, one who loves the truth should not, even so, agree with them. For not all true things are the truth, nor should that truth which merely seems true according to human opinions be preferred to the true truth."

    Scary.

    By the way, the District Overseer was Bishop Clement of Alexandria and the Elder was one "Theodore." The letter was written because the early Church had taken out a fragment of the book of Mark that was embarrassing to the teachings of the Alexandrine Church. If you substitute the word "Carpocrations" for "Apostate" it is verbatim as written.

    The year? 195 A.D.

    Not much has changed over the Centuries, has it?

    Farkel
    FirstInLine Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 10:47:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit


    United States California

    Post 169 of 353
    Since 2/19/2004

    Clever Farkel,

    I think you have a paradox though. Your point was well made but then the deception you used in the opening actually gave some credence to the letter you were criticizing. Paradox.
    Big Tex Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:09:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit


    United States Texas

    Post 5907 of 12338
    Since 2/17/2003
    Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Luther ... visionaries or apostates?  Troublemaking rebels or leaders of a new way?  Apostacy all depends on whose ox is getting gored.  History is inevitably written by the winners.
    Klaus Vollmer Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:13:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit


    Luxembourg

    Post 230 of 323
    Since 10/9/2001

    yes BT, in the eyes of the pharisees Jesus was an apostate. he condemned their cohabitation with Rome and their money making in the temple. he charged them because of their hypocricy and   --- in their eyes he lost.

    But we know that he has won.

    So I am convinced that really truth never could be apostacy, but it is the denying of facts that are true and yet rejected - eg the cohabitation with the UN as NGO.

     
    seeitallclearlynow Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:44:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit


    United States

    Post 356 of 2462
    Since 12/4/2003
    Good find, Farkel, that was revealing. Thanks.
    sf Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:58:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit




    Post 3933 of 8037
    Since 3/16/2001
    For, even if they should say something true, one who loves the truth should not, even so, agree with them. For not all true things are the truth, nor should that truth which merely seems true according to human opinions be preferred to the true truth."

     And the wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round.

    sKally
    Narkissos Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:20:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit


    France

    Post 628 of 8844
    Since 9/27/2003
    gumby Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 18:26:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit


    United States California

    Post 6537 of 14413
    Since 7/22/2001
     For, even if they should say something true, one who loves the truth should not, even so, agree with them. For not all true things are the truth, nor should that truth which merely seems true according to human opinions be preferred to the true truth."

    Same o same o

    We are only to listen to gods opinions.....not mans. Only problem is.....man can't find a way to bypass himself to give us gods message. Only Joey Smith was smart enough to come up with somethin direct from god that he discovered.......Golden Plates!  If Russell hadn't been a dumbshit,  he would have told the other idiots his "Miracle Wheat" fell from the sky.

    Gumby
    Flash Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 20:21:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit


    United States Connecticut

    Post 92 of 1132
    Since 11/17/2003
    "Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Luther ... visionaries or apostates?  Troublemaking rebels or leaders of a new way? Apostacy all depends on whose ox is getting gored.  History is inevitably written by the winners."
     
    Big Tex is 100% right! 
     
     
    Dansk Re: Letter from a District Overseer posted Sat, 13 Mar 2004 20:24:00 GMT (3/13/2004) edit


    United Kingdom England, Greater Manchester

    Post 1670 of 6166
    Since 2/16/2003

    Farkel,

    Was Armageddon "just around the corner" way back then as well?

    Ian
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