In case you think you've heard it all, have you heard that the WTS has made the following claims:

1. They and other holy angels are God's Wife, therefore the WTS elite is the "mother" of Christ himself.

2. God needs a "Capital City" to run his "organization" and who make up that "Capital City?"  The WTS elite, of course!

3. They are also Christ's Wife  (Incest!  The "mother" of Christ is also his "wife!")

4. They are Divine

5. "The Christ" is not The Christ at all, but is Jesus AND the WTS elite.

6. The Messiah (Deliverer from sin) is not Christ alone, but Christ AND the WTS elite.

Note these claims from the WT 5/1/57, p. 275 and hopefully gain some more insights into the convoluted, narcicisstic and basically wacky mind of Fred Franz.  Franz would stop at nothing to drill into his worshipers the all encompassing concept of "organization," even insisting that Jehovah God Himself needed one, or he couldn't function properly:

"But since these children of Zion above have a heavenly destiny to reign with Christ, they also become a part of the universal organization that is God's wife, and will, with Christ, form the capital city of that organization. So God's woman, Zion or Jerusalem above, is his universal organization, with one hundred forty-four thousand and one of her members or children eventually forming the capital city like a man-child government...

"Zion's 144,000 spiritual children are brought forth to become a part of the universal organization and at the same time its capital with Jesus Christ.

Note that the WTS elite are not just content with being a "part" of that Universal Organization, God's Woman, but place themselves as the "Capital city" of that organization.

The article also states this:

"(the Apostle Paul stated) The Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother." (Gal. 4:26, NW)
"Then he quotes part of a prophecy in Isaiah. Turning to this prophecy in the fifty-fourth chapter of Isaiah we learn from the context the identity of this one called "our mother." Verses five and six (AS) read:

'Thy Maker is thy husband; Jehovah of hosts is his name: and the Holy One of Israel is thy Redeemer; . . . For Jehovah hath called thee as a wife forsaken and grieved in spirit.' In this way Paul identifies Jehovah's wife as His invisible universal organization, the mother of Christ and of his joint heirs."

Part of God's "Wife" = the WTS elite
and,
The "Bride of Christ" = the WTS elite

Christ's "Bride" therefore, is also his mother, and since Christ is the "son" of and belongs as part of God's wife, he's also his own father!  Hmmmmmmm.

Now, let's turn our attention to another wacky WTS leader, who wasn't obsessed with the notion of "organization," but rather on being Divine himself.  I'm talking about Chuck Russell.

Most of you are familiar with the book, "Then is Finished The Mystery of God," written by Fred Franz.  But since the only mystery about that book was what-in-the-hell-it-was-actually-trying-to-say, how many of you are aware of the WTS "Mystery Doctrine?"  I wasn't until I picked up the book "The Four Watchtower Presidents" which was written anonymously (by a dub with too much to lose by revealing himself) and edited by Edmond C. Gruss.

In a nutshell, this doctrine states that "The Christ" is a CLASS, which is comprised of Jesus AND the WTS elite.  As I've stated many times in the past, in order to accept Watchtower doctrine, you have to be convinced that God intended the Bible not to mean what it says.  In order to properly understand it, you must accept the words of people who have a 100% track record of prophetic failure, double talk, lies, coverups and revisionist history.  Or at the very least, you must be on serious drugs.

Note:

"...the promised Messiah, the Deliverer of the world from the bondage of sin and death--the Restorer, the great Prophet, Priest and King....is NOT OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST ALONE, (caps mine) but also with him and under him as its head, the entire church of God--the faithful in Christ Jesus--the 'little flock'... Watch Tower Reprints, May 15, 1903, 3192

It's such a comfort to find out that the WTS elite are responsible to have redeemed the sins of man.  Yeah, right.  The WTS elite are absolutely unwilling to even give Christ exclusive credit for that, preferring to take even that away from Him and shamelessly sharing in the credit.

"It has also been shown from time to time that the Christ of scripture is a complex being, presented to our minds by the figure of a man-Head and of the one body; --Jesus Himself being the Head and believers being the many members of the one body."  Watch Tower Reprints, November 1880, 160.

"The Church was to be the messianic Body, which under its anointed head, Jesus, shall rule and bless the world.  This mystery, or secret, now revealed to the saints, was kept hidden from past ages..."  - The New Creation, C.T. Russell

"This Christ is composed of many members...When The Messiah is complete, The Christ will be complete.  Watch Tower Reprints, June 15, 1911, 4841

Poor Christ.  He's just not "complete" without the mighty WTS elite!

"'The Anointed' are the Christ." - Russell's sermon, "The Great Anointed One," Convention Reports Sermons, 460

"'The mystery' is the Christ, the anointed class--Jesus the head and his body members." - "The Harp of God", p. 323, J.F. Rutherford

"The Christ, Head and body, are, therefore, the Mediator for the world in a prospective sense--in the same sense as Jesus, the Babe, could be spoken of as the Saviour and the King." - Watch Tower Reprints, July 15, 1916, 5928.

"The saints who are to be associated with Jesus during his reign are likewise called "saviours." -- Watchtwer, December 15, 1927, 381

Isn't it lovely to find out that our "saviours" are the gang-that-couldn't-shoot straight?  They couldn't even hit a whale in a bucket.   Pfloooooot!

This "mystery doctrine" of claiming that "The Christ" is a composite, reminds me of this verse:

"For many will come on the basis of my name, saying "I am the Christ, and will mislead many."  Matt 24:5

We've just seen that that is EXACTLY what the WTS has done, and is doing.

From this verse it is clear that anyone claiming to be the Christ (or by any ANY PART of the Christ) other than Christ himself, are LIARS.

"Our calling is so great, so much above the comprehension of men...not any longer human, but partakers of the divine nature."...We are divine beings, hence all such are Gods..." - Watch Tower Reprints, December 1881, 301.

Yet, the Bible itself says:

"At this the serpent said to the woman:  "You positively will not die. For God knows that in the very day your eating from it your eyes are bound to be opened you are bound to be like God, knowing good and bad." - Gen 3:4,5.

The first and most dangerous step the Bible tells us that man took: to try to be like God.  From what happened in that story to all of mankind, we can certainly see what God thinks of such a thing:  mankind got screwed.  The WTS elite continues on in that fine tradition of screwing men, women and children.

"For even though there are those who are called "gods," whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many "gods" and many "lords," 6 there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him." 1 Cor 8:5

We've also seen that the WTS has claimed that they are Divine while still here on earth and as rulers in heaven WILL be Gods. 

As such "Christs" and "Gods," they've been wrong on EVERY ONE of their predictions, yet their unbelievable arrogance causes them to continue to demand to be worshipped by their membership.

Or else.

Farkel

Farkel   -- If the WTBTS is the christ then you are clearly the anti christ .  The deemonz have cleary had their way with you .  You should immediately sing some kingdom ministry tunes ,  let me help you here ,   we're jehovahs witnesses ...... 

They are also the "Two Witnesses" of Revelation who can smote their enemies with fire.

They are also the "Locusts" from the smokey firey abyss of Revelation that sting all the men of the earth without the seal of God in their forehead and the torment is so fierce all the men of the earth shall surley seek death but by no means find in those 5 months of torture by the "Locusts"

Since it is strongly believed by many, that the epistles were gnostic in content, and that those writers didn't believe in a literal earthly Jesus......I can see how ANYBODY could become wacko in trying to literalize something that never was believed to be taken as physical and literal.....including Fred Franz. Ask 10 different pastors from christendom and see how they translate those scriptures and see if they make any more sense than he did.

Gumby

P.S.

I wasn't doggin your post Fark.....it was good! I was mearly showing the fallacy of the christian explanations of the bible scriptures.They don't make sense no matter WHO tries to explain them.

 

I hereby declare Farkel the holy and anointed FDS.  Thank you, Oh Great One, for our Food At The Proper Time.

Seriously, though, you made some very good points in your thread.  I am amazed and more than a little ashamed at how many lies there were in what I was absorbing every week at the meetings and what I accepted as direct from God.

Nina

Kinda puts this portion of scripture in a whole "new light".

bigoi,

I could not agree more with you:

The WTS has "exalted itself and even placed itself as a "god" and "The Christ's body."  It doesn't get more exalted than that.

Time will tell when this "lawless"one gets revealed, but it will happen. People who make outrageous and blasphemous claims ALWAYS  get revealed and spanked.

It's only a matter of time and the WTS has it coming.

It's Karma, if nothing else, and if anyone deserves a spanking it is the evil, wicked and vindictive WTS, who epitomizes "Satan" more than any other "Christian" religion I can name.

Farkel

heathen,

:  The catholic church was and is still more evil than the WTBTS . They did like shove torture devices up peoples bottom just for disagreeing or being homosexual they killed millions in the name of religion .

lf you consider the entire history of both religions, you are of course, right.  The Catholic Church reformed centuries ago, however.  The only "reform" the WTS has done since its inception, is to get worse, and more controlling.  When you consider the damage done due to their insane rejection of blood transfusions, and their former insane rejection of vaccinations, surgical medical treatment,  organ transplants, rejection of alternative military service, Malawi, cover-ups of child abuse, flag salutes, refusing to stand for the national anthems, "theocratic war strategy," the "absolute spiritual endangerment" farce,  the damage caused by promoting the false dates of 1925, 1931 and 1975, the change in the "this generation" doctrine, rejection of traditional and family-uniting holidays, birthdays, Mother's Day, Father's Day, telling married couples what they can and can't do in their bedrooms, forbidding divorce when a spouse commits bestiality or homosexuality, enforcing spying and ratting among family members, and the ruinous enforcing of institutionalized and universal shunning, you'd be hard pressed to convince me the Catholic Church has done more damage in the last 75 years than the WTS.  Furthermore, it would be impossible for you to convince me WTS has done more GOOD than the Catholic Church during that period:  they have virtually NO chartities, food and clothing programs or hospitals like the Catholic Church.  Even for members of their own religion to receive any help when they are desperate, those members "may" only receive help if they have a recording of "long and faithful service."

If, upon pain of death, I had to choose between being a Catholic and a dub, I'd become a Catholic in a New York second.  You're not going to find very many ex-dubs that would choose differently, either.

Farkel 

  I just think the catholic church is far more dodgy than the WTBTS when it comes to transforming itself into an angel of light .  They know how to cover their trail and I just heard on the news the other day that they now have a total of 100 + priests that molested over 800 children in the past 50 years .