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"If Only Saul Would Die" by Farkel on

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RunningMan Re: "If Only Saul Would Die"

Good points. The problems affecting the Society go way beyond the ability of any current or potential leader.
I believe that their only hope (and a slim one at that) is for control to be siezed by a single visionary, who would totally reform the organization. However, under the current system of governing by committee, control is held by company men who are so stupid that they actually believe their own nonsense. Their system does not groom persons with the right leadership qualities, and they are insulated from outside takeover.
By the way, on the subject of the Biblical Saul's death, did you realize that Saul actually died three times? Consider:
1 Samuel 31:4 - “Therefore, Saul took his own sword and fell upon it.” This is a pretty straight forward, definitive statement of how Saul died.
In 2 Samuel 21:12, we find another definitive statement regarding Saul’s death: “David went and took the bones of Saul, and the bones of his son Jonathan from the men of Jabesh-Gilead, who had stolen them from the public square of Beth-Shan, where the Philistines had hanged them, on the day the Philistines killed Saul on Gilboa.”
So,we now find that Saul did not commit suicide after all, but rather, was killed by the Philistines.
But, we’re not done, yet. In 1 Chronicles, chapter 10, another person takes credit for Saul’s death, and we have to assume that this one isn’t lying. Verses 13 and 14: “So Saul died for his unfaithfulness... Therefore, the Lord slew him, and turned the kingdom over to David, the son of Jesse.”
So, Saul committed suicide, was killed in war, and was executed by God. I guess the Bible writers wanted him dead so badly that they couldn't stop at one.
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RunningMan	Re: "If Only Saul Would Die"
	Good points. The problems affecting the Society go way beyond the ability of any current or potential leader. I believe that their only hope (and a slim one at that) is for control to be siezed by a single visionary, who would totally reform the organization. However, under the current system of governing by committee, control is held by company men who are so stupid that they actually believe their own nonsense. Their system does not groom persons with the right leadership qualities, and they are insulated from outside takeover. By the way, on the subject of the Biblical Saul's death, did you realize that Saul actually died three times? Consider: 1 Samuel 31:4 - “Therefore, Saul took his own sword and fell upon it.” This is a pretty straight forward, definitive statement of how Saul died. In 2 Samuel 21:12, we find another definitive statement regarding Saul’s death: “David went and took the bones of Saul, and the bones of his son Jonathan from the men of Jabesh-Gilead, who had stolen them from the public square of Beth-Shan, where the Philistines had hanged them, on the day the Philistines killed Saul on Gilboa.” So,we now find that Saul did not commit suicide after all, but rather, was killed by the Philistines. But, we’re not done, yet. In 1 Chronicles, chapter 10, another person takes credit for Saul’s death, and we have to assume that this one isn’t lying. Verses 13 and 14: “So Saul died for his unfaithfulness... Therefore, the Lord slew him, and turned the kingdom over to David, the son of Jesse.” So, Saul committed suicide, was killed in war, and was executed by God. I guess the Bible writers wanted him dead so badly that they couldn't stop at one.
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