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DannyHaszard  WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!


Mark this!In 2007 Watchtower still say's 1914 Jesus second coming

 

Who are the Jehovah’s Witnesses?

•Regular people and not part of a cult. •People who want others to know about God and the Bible. •Believers that these are the last days before Armageddon and that it is urgent for people to develop a relationship with God. •People who don ...
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Key dates for Jehovah’s Witnesses
1870s: Charles Taze Russell starts the modern-day organization from a Bible study group in Allegheny, which is now a part of Pittsburgh. Members were known as “Bible Students.”

1881: Russell forms the Zion’s Watch Tower Tract Society, which begins to publish religious material for Bible students.

1893: First publicly advertised meeting in Chicago.

1914: The Second Coming of Jesus Christ, who now rules in heaven.

1935: Name of group changed to “Jehovah’s Witnesses,” based on Isaiah 43:10. Also changed the name to distinguish the religion from Christian denominations.

1930s-40s: Jehovah’s Witnesses take a series of cases to U.S. Supreme Court. The group wins decisions allowing members to preach without a license, not say the Pledge of Allegiance and other rights.

Source: Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
 
Source: Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania
 
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DannyHaszardRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!

This IS a BIG DEAL the Watchtower past 3 years or so looked like it might be backing off the absurdity of Jesus second coming in 1914.As a matter of fact I have been getting reviled by JW apologist for saying that 1914 is their CORE doctrine

Jesus had his 'return to power' aka second coming in 1914 why is everything still all 'messed up'?

I am thinking of Hans Christian Anderson's childrens classic,"The Emperor's new (invisible) clothes?

The REAL DEAL
Jehovah's Witnesses Millerite/Adventist sect spin-off

American war of 1812 army captain William Miller is ground zero for Jehovah's Witnesses.
There is nothing that made me gasp in horror of all WT/JW falsehoods more then this finding that it all came from the Millerite movement.
Yes,the "great disappointment"of Oct 22 1844 has never died out... it lives on in the Seventh day Adventist (who admit it) and the Jehovah's Witnesses who deny it.

The central CORE doctrine of the Watchtower,yes the reason the Watchtower came into existence was to declare Jesus second coming in 1914.When the prophecy (derived from William Miller of 1842) failed they said that he came "invisibly".
Ergo,no 1914 then there can be no 1918 inspection and sealing of the 'anointed' so the entire Watchtower Bible and Tract Society doctrinal superstructure comes crashing down like a house of cards

WILLIAM MILLER http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/132920/1.ashx THE BEGINNING of it ALL
(If you go to this link you will see where the 1914 'Millerite math' came from)

Must see video clip: www.dannyhaszard.com/cultvideos.htm please go to this link and scroll down for the History Channel clip
The Millerites: Armageddon (History Channel) 4 min clip
This is the highly credible HISTORY CHANNEL (Roger Mudd) not the "apostates" exposing Jehovah's Witnesses as a spin-off of the William Miller movement of 1844
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Tell the truth and don't be afraid-Danny Haszard

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yaddayaddaRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
Danny, how exactly does the 'entire JW doctrinal superstructure' come crashing down just because they are obviously wrong on 1914/18?

The falsity of the 1914 doctrine hardly renders most of their other core doctrines obsolete.
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greendawnRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
They weaved a whole little myth around 1914, the folllow up was that Jesus came in 1919 inspected the whole world and chose them out of everyone else as th eonly worthy people on earth and gave them authority over all his belongings on earth as His FDS (what a grandiose and shamelessly self promoting lie) so if 1914 didn't happen then 1919 also has to be a lie and the FDS status, the basis of the GB's authority, has been a con.
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emptywordsRe: Re: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
they thought arma was coming in 1914, they later said it to be a parasia, Christ' presence and began to rule as king and throw satan and his henchmen out to the vicinity of the earth, no more access to heaven and we the great crown and the few remaining elite king heirs are in woe woe, because great terror is going to happen, and true their words, the 1st world war started. since then mth 28, luke21 and mrk13, 2tim 3 1-6 have gone into full swing the end is closer now than ever because all the old diggers that were alive from 1914 has to be alive to witness the end in other words they would have had to have been old enough to know what was happening in `1914, nearly all have carced it, so in 1995 they changed it to era, not generation......God speed we must be even closer because.........zeph1:14 yearly text....i'm tired.
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DannyHaszardRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
1914 (from Adventist William Miller) is to a JW what Mary and/or the Trinity is to Catholics or what Joseph Smith and the golden plates are to Mormons.
 
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  Poet and writer Mark Twain sez:
 
"if a million people believe in a stupid thing
 
for a hundred years,it's still a stupid thing".
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anironRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!

They give out 550,000 invitations, but only 6,400 attend.

How many of them were there because they got an invitation?

One JW says he invited 20 people. I wonder how many turned up.

 

 

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dedpoetRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
They weaved a whole little myth around 1914, the folllow up was that Jesus came in 1919 inspected the whole world and chose them out of everyone else as th eonly worthy people on earth and gave them authority over all his belongings on earth as His FDS (what a grandiose and shamelessly self promoting lie) so if 1914 didn't happen then 1919 also has to be a lie and the FDS status, the basis of the GB's authority, has been a con.

That's exactly right Greendawn. Quite a bit of watchtower chronology hangs on
1914 being the year that Daniel's prophecy of the end of the gentile times being
right, which is why they hang on to 607 being the date for Jerusalem's destruction
by the Babylonians, despite so much archaelogical evidence that says the year
was 586/587.

Apart from Jesus return, inspection and appointing of the fds, their grandiose
theory about the 7 trumpets of Revelation 8 being 7 conventions held by the jws,
or bible students as they were then known, between 1922 and 1928 would be
shown to be the bs it obviously is if they abandoned 607 and 1914.

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DannyHaszardRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
WHO SAY'S 1914 JESUS ?  nearly 1.4 million pages who sez 1914 Jesus besides the Watchtower it IS their CORE DOGMA
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DannyHaszardRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
When I exited the Jehovah's Witnesses in 1992 EVERY Jehovah's Witness around me,was convinced in their heart of hearts that they would NOT see 2007 in "this old system"

Many had NO retirement plans for old age.
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emptywordsRe: Re: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!

re...1984 w't..their all probably dead now...many gave up their homes, education, not having children, marrying, disgusting, this is the main thing that I really am pis*ed of about, how they can hold a clean conscience and not take any blame for the lives they have made hard.

I was bought up in homes and had vertialy no education, worked for the system, both religious and government. These very institutions are a subject for abomination by the WTS, for their abuse of children. Yet they have no better history. It is the people I feel for. and how, why...cognitive dissonance interesting.

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kwr  Re: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
You're quite the anti-JW zealot Danny. Do you have any other hobbies?
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GopherRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!

The Watchtower has from its inception taught a chronology-based theology. Now that we're so far from 1914, it would seem they would want to back off their date-based theology. But we see it still churns up in their literature time and again.

One of their base doctrines, used to establish their "choosing" as God's organization, is that in 1918-19 God and/or Jesus came to inspect mankind's religions to choose which one would be his representative for the last days. Voila, the Watchtower (with all it's "old light") was chosen as God's instrument of truth, as per Watchtower doctrine.

Now if you were to take away the 1914 date (which has been repeatedly proven meaningless on this forum because the 607 BCE date for the fall of Jerusalem is wrong), then the 1918-19 date loses its significance. And then God and/or Jesus didn't really crown the "Bible Students" later known as Jehovah's Witnesses as his official message-bearer to mankind.

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BluesBrotherRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!

So the "Reading Eagle" got the phrasing slightly incorrect in their write up, can you blame them? Is it a big deal? The article is a lot more accurate than many that I have seen over the years. To quote the WT itself -

w06.....7/15p.7God’sKingdom—SuperiorinEveryWay***

Counting 2,520 years from 607 B.C.E. brings us to 1914 C.E. That is the year when "the appointed times of the nations," or seven times, ended. This means that Jesus Christ began to rule as King of God’s Kingdom in 1914.

***w04....3/1p.16‘TheFaithfulSlave’PassestheTest!***

Thus, in 1914 he "came" to begin his presence as enthroned King. (Matthew 16:28; 17:1;

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DannyHaszardRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
OUR PLANET
IS IN DANGER!
 
THE WICKED EXTRATERRESTRIAL TYRANT
 
 
XENU
 
HAS ENSLAVED THE HUMAN BEINGS
WITH HIS EVILPSYCHIC INFLUENCE
 
 

 
 
 
 

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johnny cipRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
i think we are forgetting. that jesus first returned in 1874 with that false prophecy that the world would end in 1872,3,4,6,78 etc.  we all know the wt was still teaching 1874 as the return of jesus as late as 1943.  we have to keep in perspective everything the wt today teaches about 1914 is all based on lies from 1874 and earlier.  i always remind jw's about 1874 any time they talk about 1914.  i make sure i never lose an arguement with jw's.
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DannyHaszardRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
 think we are forgetting. that jesus first returned in 1874 with that false prophecy that the world would end in 1872,3,4,6,78 etc.  we all know the wt was still teaching 1874 as the return of jesus as late as 1943.  we have to keep in perspective everything the wt today teaches about 1914 is all based on lies from 1874 and earlier.  i always remind jw's about 1874 any time they talk about 1914.  i make sure i never lose an arguement with jw's.

I Danny Haszard was born 1957 a 3rd generation Jehovah's Witness as far back as I can remember a toddler sitting at cult indoctrination meetings all those deep books Let God be true1914 was everything and everything.

For the Watchtower to ever deny 1914 would be like the USA goverment to deny the American revolution and say we are still a colony of England

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johnny cipRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
danny i'm with you 100% just reminding us here about 1874.  I have a copy of "LET GOD BE TRUE" 1946  THAT  book also says jesus died on a CROSS.  and other goodies.  keep up the great work danny.    john the wt exposer
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DannyHaszardRe: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!
danny i'm with you 100% just reminding us here about 1874. 

Yes,the Millerite "great disappointment"of Oct 22 1844 has never died out... it lives on in the Seventh day Adventist (who admit it) and the Jehovah's Witnesses who deny it.

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I quit!Re: WBTS 1914 IS JESUS SECOND COMING !!!

I think they would love to get rid of 1914 but don't know how to do it.  As has been pointed out not only do they claim Christ came back in 1914 but also that he hung around a while looking at all the Christian religions and for some odd reason chose them.  Their whole authority as the one true religion is based on Christ returning at that time and choosing them.  If he didn't come back at that time then he didn't select them at that time so why listen to them? 

They did sneak away from 1914 generation that wouldn't pass away thing so with a little effort they might come up with the right lie to make 1914 go away.  At least for those who still want to put all their faith in a flawed organization.

 

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