JW Apologist say no Bethel fat cats

by DannyHaszard 5 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  DannyHaszard

  POPE HAS NO BANK ACCOUNT EITHER (response to JW query "who at bethel gets da money"?) Catholics, Catholicism, accomplishments, saints, miracles

  The Pope is the head of the Catholic Church; it is divided in Dioceses, ... chastity, and obedience"... neither one has a personal bank account nor gets ... religion-cults.com/Christianity/ Catholic/Branch-C-Catholic.htm

  " RELIGIOUS ORDERS ": A total of 1,077,754 persons with the "vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience"... neither one has a personal bank account nor gets married, to be full time available, totally dedicated to serve God and their neighbors... a most beautiful crown of the Church of Christ!. - There are two main kinds of "Orders":
  1- "Monks": They stay all their life in the same monastery; started by St. Benedict.
  2- "Friars": They are ready to move to any place at any time; started by St. Dominic. - In more than 2,000 Orders, they do an immense work of evangelism and good deeds for the neighbor... but they are so humble, that I could not find specific data in most of them: However, to have an idea, her are some data: The "De la Salle Christian Brothers", number 7,500, teaching 1 million students in 1,100 places, within 82 countries; the data taken from the Internet. Call (800) 433-7593. The "Sisters Servants of Mary": They number 2,300, in Europe, America and Africa, and in 1996 they visited 267,650 patients at home, each visit lasting for 8 to 10 hours, taking care of all the needs of the person, medical, cleaning, feeding... they also did spiritual and emotional support to 669,440 persons; preventive medicine, taking the vital signs, to 389,120 persons; and individual counseling to 359,680 persons... Call my friend, Sister Angeles, in New York, (718) 829-0428. See Picture of some Servants The "Jesuits": They number 23,570. Only the area of New York they are 539 priests, who conduct 1 University, 3 Colleges, 7 High Schools, 4 Retreat Houses, 8 Parishes, the Society for the Blind, chaplaincies in several hospital and prisons, and many publications. Call (212) 774-5500. The "Franciscans", men: There are mainly 5 groups: Friars Minor, Capuchins, Conventual, Third Order Regular, Friars of the Atonement... with a total of 35,589 members... Only in the area of St. Louis, MO, they are 340 Franciscan Friars, who carry 75 parishes, 1 University, 2 High Schools, 3 Foreign Missions, nursing care, Chaplains of several hospitals and jails, ministry for Mexicans, Blacks, Native Americans, youth, Social Justice issues... Call 1-800- 993-4871. The "Franciscans", women: They are a legion, with over 70,000 members. Only in New York, the Franciscan Sisters of the Poor are 230 Sisters, who run 9 acute care Hospitals with AIDS ministries, 1 Women's Hospital, 6 long term care and retirement centers, work with the poor and the homeless... call (212) 242-0446. The Salesians: There are 17,497 members, in 102 countries, dedicated mainly to the youth. Only in New York, they are 172 Priests, who conduct 5 High Schools, 2 Technical High Schools, 1 Resident Junior High School, 6 Youth Centers, 20 Parishes, 7 Home Missions, 1 Media Center, 12 Summer Camps, 1 center for youth ministry, 1 job training center... Call (914) 636-4225. The "Missionaries of Charity", of Mother Therese of Calcutta: There are 4,000 Sisters taking care to the poorest of the poor, in the 6 Continents. Call my friends in the Bronx, NY (718) 292-0019. The "Augustinians, and Recollects": They number 4,543. In New York, the Augustinian Recollects have 42 Priests, doing a good work with the Hispanics, Cursillo Center, 8 Parishes, charismatic renewal, neo-catechumenate, hospital chaplaincies. Call my friends, Fr. Peluso or Fr. Gregorio (718) 823-458-1221, or my other friends, Fr. Duenas or Blas (718) 823-0460, or my friend Fr. Angel (212) 534-0704 - The Benedictines, men, number 8,738;
  - The Dominicans, men, are 6,561.
  - The Redemptorists 6,052.
  - The Marist Brothers 5,785, "My School", call my friend, Brother Bartholomew (718) 441-0205
  - The Oblates 5,273.
  - The Discalced Carmelites 3,710...
  ... and so on, over 2,000 different Orders, men and women... a most glorious crown!. Religious Orders, and Secular Institutes: A total of 1,077,754 persons, men and women, with vows of "poverty, chastity, and obedience"... neither one has a personal bank account nor gets married, to be full time available, totally dedicated to serve God and their neighbors... a most beautiful crown of the Church of Christ! Religious Orders ... A most beautiful crown of the Body of Christ!.
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  DannyHaszard

  Al Capone vs. Judge Rutherford Watchtower Godfather Joseph 'detox Joe' Rutherford was a fat cat
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  MinisterAmos

  Anyone seen the photos of General Counsel Phil Brumbley's house on Brimstone Rd (or Lane)?

  Easily a $Million and a half

  An enterprising individual could check with the Walkill tax asessor to find the current valuation
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  DannyHaszard

  Rick Ross: Jehovah's Witness Leaders Work Worldly System For Cash

  2 hours ago Witnesses don't vote, or participate in clubs, organized team sports, or the military because to do so would somehow represent involvement with an earthly "system" which is ultimately influenced by Satan. ... The Post Chronicle - New media, breaking... - http://www.postchronicle.com/news -

  Cult News from Rick Ross

  A news perspective with analysis from cult expert Rick Ross

  07.06.06

  Jehovah’s Witness leaders work the worldly system for cash

  Posted in Jehovah's Witnesses at 11:49 am by Rick Ross Known for their persistent door-to-door missionary work and handout magazine called “The Watchtower,” ”Jehovah’s Witnesses” have repeatedly predicted the “end of the world” with a sense of urgency to anyone willing to listen.

  However, the sect seems to repeatedly fail regarding its dates, including a purported final judgment set for 1925 and another that never came some fifty years later.

  According to the ” Religious Tolerance” Web site , which is known for its frequent apologies rather than admonishments regarding groups called ”cults,” the Witnesses have actually made many more failed predictions. The theologically tolerant site without apology lists 1914, 1915, 1918, 1920 and 1994, as examples of additional Witness failures. Much more religiously conservative Christian Web sites have longer lists of apparent blunders , such as a “ Watchman Expositor ,” which examines the organization’s supposedly “biblical” calculations. Perhaps as a result of all these mistakes the Witnesses appear to have given up on the dating game. The group says now that the “end is fluid, ” which sounds more like “hedging a bet” than anything related to the bible. However, an embarrassing fact still remains despite all the sect’s calculations, recalculations and subsequent spin. Jehovah’s Witnesses historically bought a great deal of real estate over the years in what seems to be a very shrewd long-term investment effort. But if they really expected the world to end so soon, why didn’t the Witnesses just lease? Well, the reasoning for buying up so much property becomes quite clear when looking at the group’s recent penchant for selling off some of its valuable accumulated assets. As CultNews previously reported the Witnesses religious devotion apparently includes developing real estate in New York. And the controversial organization that some have called an End Times ”cult” has recently made millions selling off and/or developing its holdings in Brooklyn alone. Where there was once a Watchtower magazine warehouse and distribution center near the East River, “swanky condominiums” are going up with a view of Manhattan. And now the Witnesses have put more of their New York property up on the block reports Knowledge Plex. For sale is a three-story residential building at 409 Central Park West between West 100th and 101st streets. The Witnesses want $4.5 million for the “air rights” to this property and expect to stay on the first three floors, allowing a developer to build on top or adjacent to the property. Jehovah’s Witnesses also own a building at 960 E. 174th St. in the Bronx, which is currently used for worship. However, the faithful will have to meet somewhere else, as this property is currently listed at $1.35 million, for development as affordable housing. Knowledge Plex points out that many nonprofit organizations and other tax-exempted religious groups in New York are also taking advantage of recent real estate appreciation to sell off their properties for record prices. But the leaders of Jehovah’s Witnesses have always attempted to separate their organization from such worldly things. Witnesses don’t vote, participate in clubs, organized team sports or the military because to do so would somehow represent involvement with an earthly “system,” which is ultimately influenced by Satan. Witnesses claim that their organization is the only one today that is sanctioned by Jehovah on earth. However, it seems when it comes to making money, Witness leaders can be very worldly indeed. And they have no problem cooperating with developers and making savvy business deals to work the worldly system for profit.

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  1. Sparky Said: July 9, 2006 at 12:47 pm Having had fun sparring with Witlesses in the past, it is just so refreshing to see that their leaders are at least planning on making hay while the sun shines…end of the world looming or no. I will say that it is very sad that the Witlesses will never read your blog, Rick. As you know they can never read anything critical of their belief sets. How sad for the poor victims (members) of this horrid little faith. I do know the only effective way to short circuit the “brain” of a Witless, is to use the past Watchtower magazines against them, showing them all the failed predictions of the “End Times”, proving without doubt of the emptiness of their faith.

  DannyHaszard Said: July 10, 2006 at This summer’s Conventions are a Watchtower money maker cash cow. The Watchtower Corporation is a multi media production and printing company,activities like summer conventions are for the purpose of promoting and raising funds for the Watchtower Corporation. They produce books, tapes, CD’s, and videos. Their main business is soliciting donations, both door to door from strangers and from their own members at Watchtower Corporation sponsored meetings. Their second cash producing business is sponsoring events and conventions and collecting donations at those. The third equity business is the real estate development and speculating business. A huge sub business is the soliciting and managing of the proceeds of wills, trusts, and cash assets of loyal members. Watchtower cult apologist say,”show me da money there are no fat cats on the their corporate board”,true they deny having personal bank accounts but so does the Catholic Pope. The Watchtower fairy follows the money trail and sprinkles the “new light” fairy dust along the path. Your’s truly,Danny Haszard Bangor Maine
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  daniel-p

  All Bethelites have a personal bank account. Actually, I believe when I was there they had some deal with Citibank so that was the only one you could get. You then could set up direct deposit, where your Bethel stpind automatically went into your account each month.
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  james_woods

  Even if they really all lived up to the vows of poverty ( which I know from personal experience that some most certainly do not - especially those at the highest levels...) -

  What difference would it really make?

  Lies are still lies even if you wear sackcloth and ashes and eat bread and water every day.