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BLISSISIGNORANCEDouble-edged scriptures.


I'm coming to you with a request. I'm doing some personal study (LOL) to get facts together for my friends who use to study with the dubs and dubs who are questioning the borg.

The whole time I was in the borg it never ceased to amaze me how the dubs (and I was guilty of this too) used scriptures to suite themselves. One scripture (positive) applied to them, the JWs,  and another (negative) applied to the others, Christendom, the world. The trick was to convince themselves and those listening that the scriptural application was true, the way they presented it. For example...............
  • 1 Peter 2:12.  (the things they are speaking against you as evildoers)
  • John 10:4-13. (The hired man who is no shephard)
  • 2 Peter 2:1-3. (False prophets and teachers/exploit you with counterfeit words) Verse 17-19. (For they utter swelling expressions of no profit etc)
  • 1 Cor 15:33 (Bad association)
  • Matt 12:35-37 (by your words you will be declared righteous or be condemned)
  • etc, etc, etc.

 When I was in the borg the positive slant on the above scriptures refered to the WTS, GB, elders, COs, all dubs serving god..............the negative slant refered to everyone else as the bad. But now that I've left the borg and have had time to look at the same scriptures with an open mind, it seems that the scriptures could be applied in the opposite way. Do you agree?

So if any of you know any scriptures that can apply either way(double edged), please let me know so I can do up a list and look at them. Then I can have them clear in my mind if the opportunity comes up with dubs or anyone for that matter, to present them another way.

Thanks in advance.

Bliss.

 
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ozziepostRe: Double-edged scriptures.

Oh yes! What a luverly topic!

Wot a way to spend Saturday evening!

OK, here's my contribution:

2 Corinthians 5: 7 "We live by faith, not by sight."

The Dubs apply this to themselves as living by faith, contrasting themselves with others (esp. churches) who, they say, live by sight (images, idols etc).

Sounds good?  Not quite right though!

In context (not a WTS virtue) these words of Paul are referring to the christian's future life with Christ in heaven where they will see him as he is i.e. "by sight". It's now when they are away from the Lord that they have to walk "by faith". See verse 6: "Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord." 

So, the WTS interpretation is a double-edged sword. It reverses the values of this text. The good becomes the bad and vice versa.

Cheers, Ozzie
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BLISSISIGNORANCERe: Double-edged scriptures.

ta matey, talk about Isa 5:20 hey!!!!!!!!!!!

..................wot a way for YOU to spend saturday night too?????????

is mrs ozzie snoozing?

anyhow, much appreciated. now off you go and get some rest.

had mum for dinner, dad went to watch the home team thrash the visitors. a couple of wines, i'm feelin' good.

nite ozzies...........
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ozziepostRe: Double-edged scriptures.

Yeah, she's snoozing all right! It was a great red tonite!

By the way, our mutual friend is looking forward to her coming event. Good, eh?

'Nite Blisses

Ozzie
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A PaduanRe: Double-edged scriptures.

"take heed then about how you hear, for to him who has more will be given, but to him who has not (existing bias), even what he has will be taken away"

I consider jwism as being opposite to christianity - the word that is accepted, as husband and head of their house, is not the Holy Spirit, so they remain, as most people on this site have noted, not fore-given - ie. given spiritual growth.

without Him was nothing made that was made
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A PaduanRe: Double-edged scriptures.

Those who think that they're the wrong side of it all have great difficulty in getting their head around the idea that they've committed some sort of unpardonable offence or something - like a strong fear - but it's ok - it's just that while (in their free will) they have chosen a different husband, they aren't free - to marry or remain single - if their word is going against the Holy Spirit, how can they recieve spiritual growth?

The good news is "when the husband dies a woman (soul) has no obligation"

Some people live simply with the a word they know, like the Samaritan woman, but don't marry.

 
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ignorance is strengthLukRe: Double-edged scriptures.
LUKE 21:8 is the most damning scripture, makes you question the purpose, the mission statement, of the WT itself.
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