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The Right to Know by ozziepost on

jst2laws Re: The Right to Know
Hello Ozzie,
The witnesses feel their judicial system is superior to the worlds, because they are God's chosen people. The flawed governmental judicial system is only used as a last resort because God has temporarely given them 'the sword' to punish wrong doers. We only tolerate them until it is time for them to be destroyed.
With this atmosphere it is no wonder local elders sometimes go even farher and advise folks not to go to the authorities when they should, or even threaten them with judicial action if they go to the authorities.
congregation could still come into disrepute by bringing to public attention the actions of one of its former members
Although talking about a former member, this attitude creates an atmosphere of PROTECT THE CONGREGATION FROM DISREPUTE..

If the wronged Christian conscientiously felt that Gods name would not be reproached and legal action was definitely needed, he would not necessarily be acting contrary to the spirit of Pauls counsel if he were to take to court one who was no longer a part of the Christian congregation.
This allowance is conditioned on the fact that he is "no longer a part of the Christian congregation". So what recourse does one have if the perpetrator is STILL A MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING, perhaps and ELDER?
Jehovah God has permitted secular authority to serve as his instrument in bringing lawbreakers to justice, and in this case the one wronged would be availing himself of legal help after exhausting the intracongregational means to have the wrong corrected.
But if you have exhausted "the intracongregational means to have the wrong corrected" and have got no where the elders have basically conveyed you do not have enough proof to take action. Even talking with current elders about how to handle the pedophile issue they keep getting the congregations judicial standard confused with the requirements of local law. They fail to think in terms of IF IT'S A CRIME, IT SHOULD BE REPORTED.
Thanks for posting this, Ozzie
Jst2laws
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Edited by - jst2laws on 22 August 2002 9:56:48
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jst2laws	Re: The Right to Know
	Hello Ozzie, The witnesses feel their judicial system is superior to the worlds, because they are God's chosen people. The flawed governmental judicial system is only used as a last resort because God has temporarely given them 'the sword' to punish wrong doers. We only tolerate them until it is time for them to be destroyed. With this atmosphere it is no wonder local elders sometimes go even farher and advise folks not to go to the authorities when they should, or even threaten them with judicial action if they go to the authorities. congregation could still come into disrepute by bringing to public attention the actions of one of its former members Although talking about a former member, this attitude creates an atmosphere of PROTECT THE CONGREGATION FROM DISREPUTE.. If the wronged Christian conscientiously *felt that Gods name would not be reproached* and legal action was definitely needed, he would not necessarily be acting contrary to the spirit of Pauls counsel if he were to take to court one who was no longer a part of the Christian congregation. This allowance is conditioned on the fact that he is "no longer a part of the Christian congregation". So what recourse does one have if the perpetrator is STILL A MEMBER IN GOOD STANDING, perhaps and ELDER? Jehovah God has permitted secular authority to serve as his instrument in bringing lawbreakers to justice, and in this case the one wronged would be availing himself of legal help after exhausting the intracongregational means to have the wrong corrected. But if you have exhausted "the intracongregational means to have the wrong corrected" and have got no where the elders have basically conveyed you do not have enough proof to take action. Even talking with current elders about how to handle the pedophile issue they keep getting the congregations judicial standard confused with the requirements of local law. They fail to think in terms of IF IT'S A CRIME, IT SHOULD BE REPORTED. Thanks for posting this, Ozzie Jst2laws edited for unwanted underlining . Edited by - jst2laws on 22 August 2002 9:56:48
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