<http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/>
Anyone have any answers to what this guy says?
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| Gordy | Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
<http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/> Anyone have any answers to what this guy says?
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| looking_glass | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
Yes, I have seen it b/4. I find it interesting that there is no where to comment or get in contact w/ the author. So it seems like a one-side convo. Anyways, isn't the whole JW motto, no party of the world regardless of how small it might be. That being the case, if yet one mere person were stumbled by the WTBTS appearance of being associated w/ the evil UN, why wouldn't they totally avoid it like they expect every other robot of a JW to do! Personally, I don't care why they were associated w/ UN, just the fact that they kept it a uber secret is what I find annoying. They make all the rest of the "flock" tell their bad deeds (even private things b/w husbands and wives), but they are not held to the same standards. | ||
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| betterdaze | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
It is one of the Watchtower apologist sites put out by the merry band of miscreants at
http://ewatchman-exposed.co.uk/research/ They have other apologist sites propping up the date lies and back-pedalling the pedophile conspiracy, in addition to the UN one. I hold nothing against JWs as a people — they are, after all, under cult mind control. It's the Watchtower Society that I resent and hope to see utterly destroyed in my lifetime. It is my fervent hope that the U.S. Federal government will take care of that for all of us. But the particular JWs on that site are vile and downright hateful, IMHO, in their support of the Borg. They do more to discredit the WTS than I ever could. Read some of their posts and material and make your own call. ~Sue | ||
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| Homerovah the Almighty | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
I've read a good part of the site, one of the most amusing to me is his weak and feeble attempt to make it sound like whoever in Brooklyn registered with the UN as an NGO to gain access to their library, was as innocent as apple pie.. It's quite apparent and obvious, particularly to long time JWS that whoever did register went directly against the rules of not getting involved with worldly government affairs and the action did indeed go against that set doctrine. It seems that who ever did the deed knew it was against their own set of principles but did it anyways to get an open access to the library. And probably thought no one would take notice, devious but practical. Unfortunately they got caught it came out in the open and they had to start damage control. The entire web-site is all wrought with bias for the WTS. and there is no way to make a rebuttal of any kind to his statements, which shows his intensional loyalty to the JWS but at the same time shows where his personal integrity is at also. In all practicality even if a simple elder was to do such a thing and it was found out by his own associated elders that elder would have probably been up in front of a JC committee without question. It would be easy to assume that the individual or individuals who did the registering was probably a GB member or someone at the top level of the organization, but no mentioning of any hand slapping, rather a blatant back peddling and a whole bunch of weak excuses, I guess like in any other organization power has its privileges | ||
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| yknot | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
Yes, he hangs out on the JW Topix forum. You can read his old postings or start a new thread about the UN/WTS debacle. He will be quick to defend even going as far as to say he wishes they were still active members. What I personally encountered with this person were half-truths. I live in Texas and stayed on top of the Amy B case while it was in Texas. He posted to me that the WTS case was dismissed with prejudice, which is true concerning the WTS of NY, the local elders on the other hand were still standing in a deep field of cowpies. He not only refuses to acknowledge that the Eldums are part of the WTS, he keeps harping how the WTS was "venerated". Basically Amy eventually cast her lot with the Napa Group and as we know they settled. It did bring attention to me how the WTS was willing to let the Eldums twist in the wind after 'Mother' got her arse out of the sling. There were arguments that the written notations in the Flock book were erroneous of JW policy and that they were just personal opinions of the local Elders not that they were told these things by the CO and legal. Oh and the lawyers used were hired guns! (former Dean of Baylor Law!) Also this was the case that generated the buzz concerning the Elders having no fiduciary responsibility to the congregation. | ||
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| civicsi00 | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
Funny- I was getting ready to post a topic about this particular website earlier this week, but I didn't have time. Whenever I first encountered anything "apostate" on the internet, I encountered this website and the one run by "e-watchman" or whatever. I was pretty shocked at first, but then the more I read about it, the more I saw that most of those members support the idea that the Watchtower is fulfilling so many prophecies, and that they are the modern-day Jerusalem (or some crap like that). Anyways, I saw through the crap months later and found other websites that simply pointed out quotes from the decades of Watchtowers/Awakes and saw that the WTBTS is nothing more than a huge publishing company, operating without any kind of Godly direction. | ||
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| Muney | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
Sorry to bring up an old dead thread here.
I was just wondering if anything that this guy has to say is true. I know it really doesn’t change much since ANY association with the UN is hypocritical. So are these "facts" he came up with, do they have any merit or is he just pulling things out of his ass?
If his facts are true, then I did learn something about the UN scandal. I learnt that there are 2 different NGOs, The DPI and the ECOSOC,both with different requirements to join. Any truth to what he says?
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| uninformed | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
In 1966 I went to prison to uphold the WT view of Neutrality, which meant back then, a non-involvement in the political affairs of this world. They broke their neutrality. They also got deeply involved in "interfaith" at the UN meetings they shared in. Both are disfellowshipping offenses, which I did. After I disfellowshipped them, they had the audacity to disfellowship me. If it is "no big deal" and not wrong for them to have become associate "NGO's" of the UN,------------then why in the HELL did they get out within three days of getting caught? The guy who does the site that is referenced here is nothing but a lying son of a bitch, bastard, evil WT worshiper. If you want to know how I really feel----
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| Kenneson | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
There have been several threads on this topic at Topix.com. Here's one I did in March of this year when I received a letter from the U.N. http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/jehovahs-witness/TUIO2D8KN76PVKNUU | ||
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| AWAKE&WATCHING | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
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| AWAKE&WATCHING | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
*sticky note*
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| Kenneson | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
Here's another enlightening link: | ||
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| Tuesday | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
Yes actually, I just received this website as a response to my Tough Questions for Jehovah's Witnesses number 20 about the UN and Jehovah's Witnesses. I responded to the website here There's a couple of quick questions that I would ask. If the NGO is not a part of the UN then why do you have to fill out UN Paperwork to become a member? Also if that's why they're not a member of the UN why does he then spend a whole chapter showing why joining wouldn't be hypocritical? Then a whole chapter about how it was simply a misunderstanding for them to join? I agree that some sites are really looking for any reason to pin the UN thing as being a conspiracy, this website to me is just far too one sided to take a face value. Read this website along with the websites about how JW's joined the UN and place the truth of the matter somewhere in the middle. That's what I would say. | ||
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| middleman | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
Remember he "Thirdwitness" was on here in 2006 trying to spread his propaganda. The funniest thing is that someone here noticed that his only supporter on his thread just do happened to have the same IP as him at the same time! We all know what that means. I arrest my case.
Here's the thread. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/117658/1.ashx Blessings...... | ||
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| middleman | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
Just a question to yall. How come when I post a link, it's not "clickable". Maybe cause I use Firefox? Oh well I guess the "non lazy" folks can copy and paste it hehe.
Blessings......... | ||
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| avengers | Re: Anyone know this website - UN & JWs | |
I only have one short question. Was the Watchtower associated with the UN? Yes or No? Yes. They slept with the Wild Beast. This makes the WT a whore. Plain and simple. Not all the words of all the apologists in the world will change that. Andy | ||
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