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"Adultresses, do you not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God."-James 4:4

"They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of he world."-John 17:16

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In consideration of these scriptures often quoted by the WTS, what is the legitimate reason for the following situations?

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Here is the link to the previous thread which shows the WTS participating in a International Conference relating to Holocaust Reparations, as well as their later efforts to obtain some of the $$$$$, not only for JW survivors, but also for the WTS itself:

. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=14105&site=3
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The 30th Annual Scholar's Conference On the Holocaust and the Churches

. http://www.sju.edu/events/scholars_conference/2000/schedule.htm

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3B Turning to Others

Jolene Chu, Watch Tower Society (Brooklyn, NY). Comfort and Commiseration: Interweaving Narratives of Intergroup Encounters

Peter Hoffmann, McGill University (Montreal, Quebec). German Resistance and the Jews

Michael B. Lukens, St. Norbert College (De Pere, WI). From Theological Idealism to Ecclesiastical Realism - Von Galen and the Dilemma of Catholic Resistance

Bat-Ami Zucker, Bar-Ilan University (Ramat Gan, Israel). In Search of Refuge - Jews and US Consuls in Nazi Germany, 1933 - 1941

Chair: Owen W. Gilman, Saint Joseph's University
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The 31th Annual Scholar's Conference On the Holocaust and the Churches


. http://www.sju.edu/events/scholars_conference/schedule.htm

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"Confronting Complicity"

Martin Rumscheidt, – Convener – Atlantic School of Theology (Halifax, Nova Scotia)

Lead Discussants:

Jolene Chu, Watch Tower Society (Brooklyn, NY)

Wayne Floyd, Jr., Lutheran Theological Seminary (Philadelphia, PA)

Barbara Green, Peace & Justice Desk – Presbyterian Church USA (Louisville KY)

Richard Rubenstein, University of Bridgeport (Bridgeport, CT)

Luise Schottroff, Pacific School of Religion (Berkeley, CA)
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The 34TH World Congress of the
International Institute of Sociology

Tel-Aviv
July 11-15, 1999


. http://spirit.tau.ac.il/soc/IIS99/iis5/finalpro.html

Schedule Excerpts:

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The Meanings and Memory of the Holocaust for Non-Jews (I) (201)

Chair: Aliza Kolker (USA)

Jolene Chu (USA): Purple Triangles - Witnesses to the Shoah

Richard Hitchens (Canada): Virtual Nazi Concentration Camps - Using the Internet for Promoting Holocaust Awareness and for Combating Holocaust Denial

Ester Golan (Israel): Who will be the Voice of the Future?

Sharon P. Rivo (USA): Individuals Who Made a Difference: Film Resources
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Hi MadApostate,

Some time ago I wrote about this phenomenon:

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Shameless Exploitation of Tragic Deaths

Ever since World War II the Watchtower Society has tried to make the most out of the tragic deaths of 635 Witnesses in Hitlers camps and prisons, before and during the war.

Apparently dissatisfied with the number of dead, they have contiguously tried to increase the figures all the time, ever since. The thought behind this seem to be that only 635 dead isn’t quite sufficient to create the right amount of goodwill, they so sorely need.

Anyone dealing with Jehovah's Witnesses’s will sooner or later be reminded of how horribly they suffered in Nazi Germany. Often totally out of context and unrelated to the subject discussed, this argument is brought forth. In correspondence with government officials, journalists, etc., one often sees this argument used, even though it is totally out of any context whatsoever.

Apparently it is regarded as some sort of magic argument, which will immediately open all doors, and invalidate anything else. “No one can blame us for lying and cheating and killing people, because we suffered during the Nazi Years.” This seems to be the logic behind the Watchtower reasoning.

And with that kind of thinking the actual number of Witnesses who perished doesn’t seem to be enough. 635 human lives seem so utterly pale in comparison with the huge number of Jews, Gypsies, yes, and even homosexuals who died during the Hitler years. So they have to get the number of dead up, up. The more the better. More dead, more credibility.

Already in 1950 they started to exaggerate the number of dead:

“Already during the Hitler regime about 1,000 Jehovah's witnesses were executed as traitors, because they not only refused to serve in the war but openly opposed Hitler's authority. Another 1,000 of Jehovah's witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps.” (The Watchtower, December 15, 1950, p. 500.)
As we can see they have rounded up the number to an even 2,000 dead.

“That is why during the Nazi regime in Germany from 1933 to 1945 Jehovah's witnesses in that land refused to heil Hitler! as their Fuehrer or Leader, and went to concentration camps and prisons, where 2,000 died cruel deaths, and of the 8,000 that came out alive, 2,000 were invalided for the rest of their lives.” (The Watchtower, February 15, 1951, pp. 105, 106.)
The year after they again mention the round figure of 1950, 2,000 dead.

“Hitler, a Roman Catholic, the arm of his church in Germany, forbade Jehovah's witnesses to preach the kingdom of God, and these modern-day Christians had to say to Hitler's Gestapo police: 'Whether it is righteous in the sight of God to listen to you rather than to God, judge for yourselves.' They kept preaching even though 10,000 of them were put in concentration camps and over 4,000 died there. The rest nearly starved to death. The war's end aided their survival.” (The Watchtower, January 1, 1964, page 13.)
As we can see here in 1964, they have again doubled the number of dead, now it has reached 4,000.

So from the war’s end in 1945, to 1964, in 19 years they had managed to make 635 dead into 4,000 dead.

Then in 1974 the Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses printed the history of their activities in Germany, and since Armageddon were due the next year, in 1975, a little honesty might come in handy, so here we got the most reliable number of casualties during the Nazi years:

"But despite the hard conditions, how those who worshiped Jehovah rejoiced! They had been privileged to prove their integrity to the Sovereign Ruler of the universe. During Hitler's rule 1,687 of them had lost their jobs, 284 their businesses, 735 their homes and 457 were not allowed to carry on their trade. In 129 cases their property had been confiscated, 826 pensioners had been refused their pensions and 329 others had suffered other personal loss. There were 860 children who had been taken away from their parents. In 30 cases marriages had been dissolved due to pressure by political officials, and in 108 cases divorces had been granted when requested by mates opposed to the truth. A total of 6,019 had been arrested, several two, three or even more times, so that, all together, 8,917 arrests were registered. All together they had been sentenced to serve 13,924 years and two months in prison, two and a quarter times as long as the period since Adam's creation. A total of 2,000 brothers and sisters had been put into concentration camps, where they had spent 8,078 years and six months, an average of four years. A total of 635 had died in prison, 253 had been sentenced to death and 203 of these had actually been executed. What a record of integrity!" (1974 Yearbook of Jehovah's Witnesses, page 212.)
As usual, Brooklyn shows its love for numbers by throwing in a totally irrelevant array of figures here. Everything to create a picture of something really gigantic. It’s all reminding of their assembly reports, where they tell us how many tons of potatoes, etc., was consumed during the assembly.

Anyway. During the seventies they stuck to these figures but later it all started again. Now the tendency is to use outside, non-Watchtower sources, so-called “scientists” and various writers and historians to pump up the numbers again. One such example we find here:

“The book Mothers in the Fatherland reported: “[Jehovah’s Witnesses] were sent to concentration camps, a thousand of them were executed, and another thousand died between 1933 and 1945. . . . Catholics and Protestants heard their clergy urge them to cooperate with Hitler. If they resisted, they did so against orders from both church and state.” (The Watchtower, January 1, 1989, p. 21.)
This trick of quoting an outside source, who again is using the Watchtower as its source, is not new. The source of the information in the “Mother of the Fatherland” book is quite evidently lifted from a Watchtower from 1950, which said:

“Already during the Hitler regime about 1,000 Jehovah's witnesses were executed as traitors, because they not only refused to serve in the war but openly opposed Hitler's authority. Another 1,000 of Jehovah's witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps,” (The Watchtower, December 15, 1950, p. 500.)
So by using this trick they are able to increase the number to 2,000 again in 1989. Time will show if they make any attempts to get the number up to 4,000 again, or if they will be satisfied with 2,000.

The record show the Watchtower Society’s complete ruthlessness when it comes to use the horrible fate of the victims of the Nazi’s in an attempt to gain sympathy and acceptance from authorities and the general public. Particularly in Germany, where they are trying to gain recognition as a Church from the German state.

In 1994 and 1995, the Watchtower Society has staged several propaganda shows where they have tried to milk everything possible out of what happened during the Nazi years. In 1994, they held a seminar at the Holocaust museum in Washington DC on September 29th. In 1995 two arrangements was held in France. The first in Strasbourg, March 28. And in Paris two day’s later. By far the most important one from a propaganda point of view was the one held in Brandenburg, Germany, on April 27th. The Watchtower Society had put together an exhibition with the theme “Memoire de Témoins” “Memories of the Winesses”. The Awake! magazine of June 8, 1996, which reported these gatherings seems very pleased with the effect. In order to lend this propaganda a bit more credibility they invited historians and politicians! In France they even got a former government member to say a few words. For those of us who have read the long and countless harangues of contempt heaped upon politicians and other non Jehovah's Witnesses printed in the Watchtower during the years, cannot but smile at such a transparent tactics.

They must be pretty desperate in Brooklyn when they invite representatives of Satan’s system to be present, to make their propaganda more credible.

Anyway, none of these attempts to appear more mainstream and “normal” has had any visible effect. In France the Jehovah's Witnesses enjoyed a 2% decrease in 1996, and in Germany there is stagnation. The German authorities wasn’t very impressed either, because they did not grant the Watchtower Society their much desired status. That case is now pending before the German Supreme Court, and will probably be settled in 1998.

Let’s hope the Watchtower Society will let the victims of the Nazi years and President Rutherford’s extremely stupid dispositions during that time, finally rest in peace. It is indeed sad and depressing to behold the disgusting and revolting display the Watchtower Society put on, in order to save their flagging membership and reputation.

Norm
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. http://www.nyed.uscourts.gov/pub/rulings/cv/1996/671622.pdf
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WATCH TOWER BIBLE AND TRACT SOCIETY OF PENNSYLVANIA

Address: 100 Watchtower Drive, Patterson, NY 12563; Tel No: 914-306-0700

Contact: Carolyn R. Wah, Associate General Counsel

Date of Proposal: December 7, 1999; as supplemented August 23, 2000; on August 10, 1999 and

on June 22, 2000 the Special Master met with Carolyn R. Wah, Jolene Chu and James Pellechia.

Proposal Summary: Special consideration should be given to applications of the surviving

Jehovah's Witness victims of Nazi persecution. The Watch Tower would use a portion of the

Settlement Fund to support its ongoing research and archival work on the Holocaust and

presentations of its findings. It would devote any allocated monies solely to Holocaust education

and the remembrance of the prisoners who bore the purple triangle, which represented the
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because they want to honor the victims of the holocaust of course
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Jolene Chu

b. 1957, studied social history at New York University, researcher specializing in the history of Jehovah's Witnesses in the Nazi era, at the international offices of the Watch Tower Society; project coordinator of Holocaust-related education programs and cooperative efforts with the Survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation, Facing History and Ourselves, the Imperial War Museum Holocaust Exhibition, and numerous other Holocaust education and research facilities; serves on the advisory board for the Journal of Genocide Research.
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http://www.disc.co.uk/standfirm/ official jw website on the holocaust

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Remembering for the Future 2000?

What is Remembering for the Future 2000?

RFTF 2000 is a major international scholars' conference on the Holocaust, together with an important series of related meetings and events, and will take place in Oxford and London from 16-23 July 2000. It will open its doors on 16 July with a Survivors' Gathering in London, including survivors and their children, "hidden children", Kinder-transportees, rescuers and liberators.

On 17 July the Vice-Chancellor of Oxford University will open the international scholars' conference which will last four days (17-20 July). Some 700 of the best minds in the field from all over the world will join with a significant number of survivors and younger scholars to present and debate the results of their latest research and discuss the implications of the Holocaust for our contemporary world.

The aims and themes of the conference (which follow below) have been most carefully chosen by the academic committee to represent dynamic areas of new findings and topical debate.

The sixth day (21 July) will be held in London and be open to the general public and media. It is expected to attract a public audience of over 2,000 people to hear and then debate the findings of the conference. The message RFTF 2000 will be sending out to the world will be aimed not only at scholars but also at politicians, the press, religious groups, human rights organisations, anti-racist and anti-genocidal movements, and all who choose to listen.

Various exhibitions and a programme of plays, films, music and lectures are also being organised in co-operation with other institutions and run in parallel in both Oxford and London, including a commemoration in music at the Sheldonian Theatre, Oxford on the evening of Monday July 17th.

Conference Aims

The specific aims of the scholarly conference are to provide a forum for the evaluation of the Holocaust in an age of genocides; to assess the impact of new material and research, particularly in the post-Communist era; to reassess the Jewish-Christian dynamic in the light of the Holocaust and provide a unique opportunity for eye witnesses and scholars to work together; to disseminate new findings using new technologies, especially the Internet. It will seek to assess the legacy of the Holocaust and encourage the development of its study into the next century. "It is the present that asks questions about the past but it is the past that sheds light on the strangeness of the present."


. http://www.rftf2000.org.uk/programme/prog_conf_day3.html


Schedule Excerpt:

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History Seminars 6:

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Jolene Chu & James Pellechia
From Marginalization to Martyrdom: The Nazi Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses

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MadApostateRe: WTS MILKS HOLOCAUST FOR $$$ AND P.R.
Thanks for the contributions.

What I am really pursuing in this thread is the idea how the WTS is using the Holocaust topic to "be part of and develop friendships with the world".

"Milking the holocaust" via their own publications, seminars, meetings, etc. is one thing. To use this topic to participate in non-JW events with worldly scholars, theologians, etc. is something else.

What is the scriptural precedent for such? These WTS presentations do not appear to be the "preaching the good news of the kingdom"?
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Chu participates at The 1999 Annual Holocaust Conference Program (April 18-19, 1999) at Millersville University


. http://muweb.millersville.edu/~holo-con/prog-99.html

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Session 5
Matisse Room

"Religious Responses to the Holocaust"

The Holocaust in Jewish Thought: A Case for the Uniqueness of the SHOAH
David Levy, Ballimore Hebrew University

Political Neutrality and Spiritual Resistance - Jehovah's Witnesses Under the Nazi Regime
Jolene Chu, Researcher, Watch Tower Society

A Loss of Innocence: The Controversy Surrounding the Authenticity of Binjamin Wilkormirski's Fragments
Sonja Hedgepeth, Middle Tennesse State University

Moderator: Steve Paskuly
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@Norm
I think arguing about the figures of dead in this way is tasteless. It is not uncommon that historical figures are not accurate and in the beginning the WTS did not care. Firstly, they were reorganizing and did not count deaths - and how should they. So, all figures are estimates, while historians did differ in their very beginnigs.

The Society started to care in the 90s. Garbe gives about 1.200. (BTW, it was Garbe who compared the suffering to the Jews. He is also a Protestant theologian and not as pro-JW as many may think.) Since the "Purple Triangles"-exbibition tours Germany and all congregations were encouraged to do research some new cases have been discovered so that the number is increasing again.

But so what?
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Pellechia and Chu Participate at Russian Holocaust Conference


Gordon Mork, Purdue University, sends this personal report:

In Russia it is spelled with an X. From May 4-7th the Second International Symposium, "The Lessons of the Holocaust and Contemporary Russia" took place in Moscow, sponsored by the Russian Research and Educational Holocaust Centre and the Marc Bloch Centre of the Russian State University for the Humanities. There were over sixty speakers on the programme. most of whom were from Russia and the former USSR, but also from Israel, France, Poland, and the USA. It was an amazing experience.
The opening session coincided with a Yom Hashoa commemoration, which overflowed the auditorium of the "Central House of the Men of Letters". Russian friends noted the irony of holding the ceremony there; as the seat of the "official" writers' organisation in Soviet times, it had secluded all dissidents (including many Jews) prior to 1989. Participants that evening included survivors of both the Nazi camps and the Soviet gulags, the chief rabbi of Moscow, the ambassador of Israel, a men's chorus, and a very upbeat children's choir. Representatives of Christian rescuers were honoured. We ended by rising to sing the Israeli anthem.

The presentations over the next three days included a combination of scholarly papers, personal recollections, calls of concern about antisemitism today, and models for Holocaust education. The keynote address was by a dynamic woman. A.E.Gerber, the president of the Holocaust Centre in Moscow and a former member of parliament.

Only one of the papers focussed directly on religious issues of special interest to our Association. James N.Pellechia and Jolene Chu, of the Watch Tower Society, presented a well-crafted paper "Teaching Tolerance: A Case Study", which explained the role of Jehovah's Witnesses as "a second witness to the Shoah" in the Nazi camps. Much of the material was drawn from the documentary video entitled "Jehovah's Witnesses Stand Firm against Nazi Assault" (See review in Newsletter no 24, Vol II, no 12 - December 1996), though this video was not shown in Moscow.

Other presentations dealt with themes familiar to scholars of the Holocaust, themes which implied much about the underlying relationships between Christians and Jews. Was the Holocaust "unique"? Was it exclusive to Jews? Did Christians help Jews, or did they support the Holocaust? How and to whom should the Holocaust be taught? It is clear that the opening of archives. and the new freedom to publish documents, monographs, and teaching materials will provide many rich (and often disturbing) sources for historians and educators.

One of the major points made was that there is a continuity of antisemitism in Eastern Europe, rooted in religious and economic prejudice. Antisemitism was officially suppressed during the Soviet period but in reality was still prevalent. It was vigorously and brutally promoted by Nazi propaganda during World War II. Now, in the post-Soviet world, it is becoming manifest again. Some of the same antisemitic authors who wrote for the Nazis are being published again in the 1990s. One of the most interesting exchanges was between a scholar who defended Christian peasants in the Ukraine who sheltered him and his family during the Holocaust. He could not have survived without such help, he emphasized, and he did not want to hear that all Christians in the Ukraine were antisemitic!

A Polish scholar, Dr. Monika Adamczyk-Garbowska, spoke on attitudes in Poland about the Holocaust in particular and Jews in general. She touched on the links between Polish nationalism and the Catholic Church, but did not fully analyse them. Other papers implied a relationship between the upsurge of Slavic nationalism (including antisemitism) and Orthodox Christianity, without exploring the issue in depth.

Overall there was a sense of exhilaration that issues, so long suppressed in Russia, were now open for full discussion. Another Symposium is planned, but a date has not yet been set. Inquiries can be sent to Dr Ilya A Altman, of the Russian Holocaust Centre in Moscow. = altman@glasnet.ru
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28th Scholars' Conference on the Holocaust and the Churches

It was a particular pleasure to attend the 28th Scholars' Conference on the Holocaust and the Churches at the University of Washington at the beginning of March. This annual event, which has been under the genial guidance of Professor Franklin Littell and his wife Marcie since its beginnings in 1970, brings together both Jewish and Christian scholars to discuss the implications oft he Holocaust for both religious communities. So it was great to meet so many old friends there, and to see how many of them are also subscribers to this Newsletter. This year, special sessions were devoted to the churches during the Nazi era. An excellent plenary session was given over to the policies of Pope Pius XII. John Pawlikowski explored Pius 'development of Catholic social teachings, which sought to overcome the long tradition of opposition to democracy and liberalism, and posed the question as to how far this influenced his attitude towards the Jewish victims of Nazism. He also repeated his call for more opening of archives, which would surely give us a broader picture of the Vatican's stance during these turbulent years. Jacques Kornberg, Toronto, outlined clearly the Holy See's reactions to the earlier genocides of the Armenians, the Ethiopians, and the Catholic Poles after the Nazi onslaught began in 1939. In each case, the Popes were outraged, but their interpretation of Catholic interests led to them to keep silence, lest their authority should be challenged, and possibly weakened. The Vatican's response to the Holocaust followed a similar path. It was only afterwards that expectations were heightened about how Pius XII should have acted, though the advocates of this view have rarely thought through the implications of their desire for a more forceful Papal intervention in political affairs. I was asked to speak on the Pope's political priorities, and sought to outline his overwhelming concern for peace, his preservation of a strict impartiality, and his desire to play the role of mediator to bring the murderous hostilities to an end. To be sure, this policy which had been established already in the first world war under Benedict XV, Pius' mentor, was not successful, and can be criticised for its illusions about the effectiveness of the Holy See's influence. But it was a noble and worthy ideal, even if it was doomed to be thwarted by the power politics of all the combatants. So too, the Vatican's heartfelt efforts to assist the victims of the war were to prove too limited, but should not be dismissed as totally insignificant. Later, we had a splendid session devoted to church policies, when we heard six papers on a variety of topics. Outstanding was the presentation by Jolene Chu, a member of the Jehovah's Witnesses, on their fate in Ravensbruck concentration camp, as also a paper by Victoria Barnett on the ecumenical movement's efforts to find a consensus on opposing Nazism. Haim Genizi, Israel, read a most interesting paper on a leading figure in the Canadian United Church, describing both his efforts to help Jewish refugees, as well as his subsequent opposition to Zionism after 1945. These were useful contributions to show the variety of Christian responses to the unprecedented challenge of totalitarian ferocity as exhibited during the Nazi era.
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JW-Featured Speaker and Pellechia Attend Arkansas Conference


Barry Brown ( right) of Springdale gets a chance to converse with Holocaust survivor Joseph Kempler after Kempler s keynote address at
The Holocaust Remembered: The Victims conference held recently at the Jones Center for Families in Springdale. Kempler, a Polish Jew during the Nazi regime, said he lost faith during those years, but noted that he is now one of Jehovah's Witnesses. He gave experiences ranging from ghettoization to labor and extermination camps.

Holocaust survivor Joseph Kempler and his wife, Virginia, visit with Dr. Mark Cory, director of the European Studies Program at
the University of Arkansas, after Kempler's keynote address at The Holocaust Remembered: The Victims conference held recently at
the Jones Center for Families in Springdale. The conference was sponsored by The Arkansas Holocaust Education Committee.

PHOTOS BY KANDRA SPERLING THE MORNING NEWS

Renee Kaplan, a language arts teacher at Mabry Middle School in Cobb County, Ga. , and a Mandel Fellow of the United States
Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D. C. , discusses course materials with Francie Bryant-Thompson, Gifted and Talented Education coordinator for Bento ville Public Schools. Kaplan conducted a workshop on using resources from the USHMM to
teach students about the Holocaust.
LEST WE FORGET

Holocaust Remembered at Conference

EDUCATORS, STUDENTS LEARN ABOUT ATROCITIES FROM SURVIVORS, SCHOLARS
THE MORNING NEWS SPRINGDALE

More than 228 educators and students recently attended The Holocaust Remembered: The Victims conference at the Jones Center for Families in Springdale.

The conference, in its eighth year and sponsored by the Arkansas Holocaust Education Committee, featured a keynote address by
Holocaust survivor Joseph Kempler who spoke, Survival at What Cost?

Kempler, who was persecuted because he was a Polish Jew, talked about his experiences in the ghettos and in labor and extermination camps at Melk, Mauthausen and Plaszow. Kempler also spoke in detail of atrocities he witnessed there, including decapitations and cannibalism. Kempler and his wife,
Virginia, traveled from Reno, Nev., to participate in the conference.

Local workshop presenters included Dr. Mark Cory, director of the European Studies Program at the University of Arkansas, and Marlie McGovern, a senior at UA, majoring in European Studies and Anthropology. Cory and McGovern spoke on the topic, The Problematics of Victimhood.

The session concluded with a comparison of two recent examples in the media where questions have arisen about the trivialization of the Holocaust: the movies: Robin
Williams Jakob the Liar, and Roberto Benigni's Life is Beautiful. Visiting presenters were Nancy Kersell from Northern Kentucky University, Christina
Vasquez from the Holocaust Museum Houston, Gretchen Skidmore from North Carolina School of Science
and Mathematics in Durham, N. C. , James N. Pellechia from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society in New York, Holocaust survivor Ruth Troxler from an Antonio, Texas, Renee Kaplan from Mabry Middle School in Cobb County, Ga., 25-year Holocaust educator Ellen Fettner from Ohio, Dr. Nathan Bracher from Texas A& M University and andra Byrd from Lake Charles, La.
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It seems that the WTS is a regular participant at the Annual Scholar's Conferences On the Holocaust and the Churches. Here is evidence that unnamed French JWs participated in the 27th Annual Scholar's Conference On the Holocaust and the Churches in 1997:

http://www.abbc.com/aaargh/engl/AAconference.html
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Please bear in mind my previously used "cockroach" analogy. The events above, which evidence WTS participation, are only those which are internet accessible.

For every one found there are likely dozens or hundreds which we do not know about.

Combine this "PR agenda" with the WTS's "political lobbying agenda", and one begins to see their decade long global scheme to "cozy up" to the world in furtherance of WTS corporate goals.
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Just a point about what happens when the Watchtower Governing Body ask you to do some research for them and that research doesn't meet the expectations of that governing elite.

As a result of Mr.Felderers information he was later disfellowshipped.
He not only got the JW's mad at him but as a result of trying to find truth in numbers got the Jews mad at him to. You can't win.

JoRiz

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/dsmrd/dsmrd13felderer.html


[Ditlieb Felderer was the first witness called by the defence. He testified on March 2, 3, 4 and 7, 1988.]

Ditlieb Felderer, 46, first met Zündel in 1979. Both had an interest in what Felderer defined as the "extermination theory," the belief that during the Second World War, in Poland, millions of people had been exterminated in gas chambers. (18-4225)

Felderer's interest in the subject had been aroused during his years as a researcher for the Jehovah's Witness publication Awake!, during which time he prepared a research paper for the Witnesses' governing body on the history of the Jehovah's Witnesses during World War II. Members of the sect were incarcerated in virtually every camp in Nazi Germany during the war and also in such countries as Canada because they refused to bear arms. (18-4225 to 4229) In the beginning, the Jehovah's Witnesses claimed that 60,000 of their members were killed in the Nazi concentration camps. Felderer's research on the question, which took him to the headquarters of the Jehovah's Witnesses in New York, as well as to archives in Toronto, Switzerland and Scandinavian countries, convinced him that the actual number was far lower, and that only about 200 Jehovah's Witnesses were killed. Felderer's research put him on a collision course with the sect; the leadership in New York warned members that they were not allowed to speak to him. In a subsequent Yearbook published by the Jehovah's Witnesses, however, they conceded that only 203 people were killed during the war. Felderer had told Zündel about this research
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