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Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures

    Corvin Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 08:35:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    United States California

    Post 687 of 1932
    Since 3/1/2004

    I found this on the official JW site:

    Conscience

    Jehovah's Witnesses avoid making rules and regulations beyond those provided in the Scriptures, and they do not follow traditions that contradict Bible teachings. Emphasis is placed on personal application of Bible principles and the value of a sound, Bible-based conscience.?Matthew 15:9; 2 Corinthians 1:24.     http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/membership.htm

    What are some examples of how the governing body has made rules and regulations beyond those provided in the Scriptures?

    Corvin
    Gadget Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 08:58:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    United Kingdom England, Tyne and Wear

    Post 1784 of 2826
    Since 5/25/2003
    Men can't have beards.
    Corvin Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 10:16:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    United States California

    Post 688 of 1932
    Since 3/1/2004

    That is a good one, gadget. Here is the Society's reasoning on the beard thing. Notice there are no Scriptures cited.

    ***
    w75 8/15 pp. 500-501 Do Not Let Yourself Be Ensnared by Fads and Entertainment ***

    9
    Extreme hair styles can easily lead one into a trap of the Devil also, and cause others to stumble. For example, a young man in the United States was making fine progress in his study of the Bible, and he was moved to share with an experienced Witness in preaching to others about the good things he was learning from the Bible. From early youth he had let his beard grow, and since some in the business community wore beards, he felt that his wearing one in preaching to others would be acceptable generally. But in speaking to a lady he was unable to do more than introduce himself, when she said: "I?m sorry, young man, I do not want to become involved in student revolt." No amount of explanation after this sufficed to clear up the misimpression. After the conversation ended with the closing of the door, he asked the experienced Witness what had happened. He was invited to consider his appearance in relation to what he claimed to be, a servant of God. Not wanting to be responsible for even one person?s being stumbled so as to miss the way to everlasting life, this new Kingdom publisher shaved off his beard. Would you be willing to do the same or to make similar adjustments if your appearance gave the wrong impression in a certain community?

    LOL, beards can lead one into a trap of the Devil also!

    This is a dumb-arse viewpoint. This new JW who was "making fine progress" is an extreme example and not very realistic. If he was rejected by the householder it was probably because "from early youth he had let his beard grow". If he looked like ZZTOP, I can see a householder getting a bit judgemental, but a trimned well kept beard would not cause a householder freak . . . geezzz.

    And where is the Scripture to back that up?????

    No wait!  They did cite a Scripture!  2 Corinthians 6:3-4  3 In no way are we giving any cause for stumbling, that our ministry might not be found fault with; 4 but in every way we recommend ourselves as God?s ministers, by the endurance of much, by tribulations, by cases of need, by difficulties . . . "

    OK so, a well groomed beard would be a cause for stumbling?  "Hey, buddy, I am not going to listen to you because everyone and their uncle knows that beards are from the Devil, so don't talk to me!"

    I suppose that is why the WTBTS depicted Jesus as a clean shaven man for so many years. 

    Corvin
    somebody Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 10:31:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit




    Post 1338 of 1444
    Since 7/5/2000

    Their whole disfellowshipping process AND their reistatement process AND their 170-something questions before a person can be baptised AND their whole "apply and either be rejected or approved" to go and preach for as many hours as a a person wishes to AND their updated version of the "good news" to be preached that the WTS admits goes BEYOND what Christ's first century followers preached AND their teaching that their "great crowd" of followers "bow down to", spiritually , to the group of fellow humans who make up the WTS INC's faithful and discreet slave AND also teaching that their "great crowd" render sacred service accaptable to God ONLY in assocation with that group of humans that make up the WTS INC's faithful and discreet slave. ....and the list goes on and on and on.

    I'm glad you asked.

    peace,

    somebody/gwen
    exjdub Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 11:54:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    United States Florida

    Post 146 of 897
    Since 4/7/2004

    Woman wearing a napkin on their head to conduct a study or say prayer in front of an unworthy baptized brother.  Interestingly, they can teach on the platform as long as there is another woman across the table.  Where did they read that in the scriptures?  What a bunch of crap! 

    Somebody:  Whew! That wore me out.  Great post!
    TowerWatch Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 13:47:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    United States Ohio

    Post 8 of 216
    Since 9/29/2003

    Hey! The rule against beards and long hair for men is correct. I'm glad I am not under that law anymore.

    The best one I can think of is when they told married couples what kinds of sex they could not have.

    Find that in the Bible.
    Spooner Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 13:47:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit

    United States Indiana

    Post 52 of 56
    Since 5/4/2004
    hahaha i'm rolling cuz of that, thats great
    nobody told me Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 13:48:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit

    United States Massachusetts

    Post 231 of 251
    Since 6/7/2003
       Keeping track of hours preached on a publishers record card.   Low hours=weak publisher.   All a person is worth to the Watchtower is their hours.
    TowerWatch Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 14:09:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    United States Ohio

    Post 9 of 216
    Since 9/29/2003

    You are only as good as your last literature placement.
    justhuman Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 14:13:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    Greece

    Post 255 of 1637
    Since 8/18/2001
    WT IT IS THE NO 1 MAKING MAN MADE RULES
    iiz2cool Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 14:32:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit



    Post 1497 of 3021
    Since 5/12/2003

    Rules and other things invented by the WTS:

    No beards

    5 weekly meetings

    reporting field service

    2 door cars are bad

    no higher education

    auxiliary and regular pioneers

    Conventions

    Name tags

    regional building commitees

    kingdom halls

    no pepperoni on your pizza

    no smoking

    judicial commitees

    can only use society-approved hotels at conventions

    no reporting of child abusers to authorities

    blood cards - and they must be filled out at the BS under the elders supervision

     
    ozziepost Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 14:37:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    Australia New South Wales

    Post 7716 of 15014
    Since 2/5/2001
    Restrictions following reinstatement
    galaxy7 Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 14:53:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    Canada

    Post 432 of 517
    Since 1/16/2004

    Hi Corvin here is an interesting quote i found on a jw site:
    first of all the structure of the organization is such that the governing body only answers to God, we the "earthly things" have no right to an apology, in their view they answer to jehovah and jehovah alone. The precedents for this are, king david made no public apology for his gross error and neither did moses, both men were judged and punished by God directly.The annointed governing body believe themselves to be the representatives of christ rulership on earth.
    Now we no why they arent accountable
    shamus Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 14:58:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit



    Post 4786 of 5747
    Since 5/1/2003
    Woman wearing a napkin on their head to conduct a study or say prayer in front of an unworthy baptized brother.
    LOL!  I liked that! 
    Country Girl Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 15:32:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    United States Texas

    Post 1362 of 3551
    Since 7/1/2002

    I'm confused.  Aren't the annointed supposed to be the ones that are making the rules since they will rule with Christ for 1,000 years, and they get God's holy spirit?  Do the annointed ones, or the remnant, actually take a diligent role in mandating JW policy?  I guess the GB are annointed, so far as they say, but what about the ones in the "field"?  Do they call them up ad ask them what "new light" there is or anything?  I've been out so long that I can't even remember how this works!  What I always wondered is the JW's claim that there is no more miracles.. yet, they claim to be God's directed channel on Earth.  To *me* and this just may be ME, it seems that spiritual direction is something of a miracle, since it's extraordinary.  But wait.. oh yeah.. they are imperfect men, so whatever they say can't be counted on since they may be interpreting God's divine words to them through prayer <???> wrongly.  Wait.. we have to listen to them because they are God's inspired channel to Earth.. but how can they be inspired when their interpretations may be wrong?  Who's taking responsibility here?

    Another thing: why would God tell them one thing, then another, and then back again?  That doesn't make any sense.  Don't they even see how nothing makes sense?  If they were STUPID men, yes.  But they aren't.   Methinks they are blinded by power.

     

    CG
    somebody Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 15:54:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit




    Post 1339 of 1444
    Since 7/5/2000

    iiz2cool : no pepperoni on your pizza

    LOL.... Why would I not be surprized if that were true?

     

    And I'd like to add to your list....

     

    no buying food from food vendors at the convention sites.

     

    peace,

    somebody
    iiz2cool Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 15:58:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit



    Post 1499 of 3021
    Since 5/12/2003
    LOL.... Why would I not be surprized if that were true?

    When I first joined the dubs a bunch of us went to pizza hut for one of their specials. As soon as the food came everyone started picking off the pepperoni because it might contain meat by-products that just might have blood! I gave in to the peer pressure and picked mine off too, but I still continued to eat pepperoni in private. It was one of my "secret sins".

    Walter
    shamus Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 16:02:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit



    Post 4798 of 5747
    Since 5/1/2003

    Walter,

    Jehovah will kill you now.  You filthy filthy bastard.....

    Did you go to the elders?  Or did you whip yourself with chains when you got home, LOL! 
    Englishman Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 16:03:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit


    United Kingdom England, Somerset

    Post 9261 of 11805
    Since 2/4/2001

    2 door cars?????????????

    What? Why..........?

    Englishman.
    iiz2cool Re: Regulations Beyond Those Provided in the Scriptures posted Thu, 13 May 2004 16:26:00 GMT (5/13/2004) edit



    Post 1500 of 3021
    Since 5/12/2003

    Shamus, I never repented and I continue to eat pepperoni on my pizza to this day. It was most likely the beginning of my spiritual downfall and subsequent descent into a life of debauchery.

    Eman, a 2 door car is impractical when engaging in the field service, since people with cars are always expected to take others with them. Elders can split their pants open  when trying to get out of the back seat, and hot-looking pioneer sisters could possibly show a little thigh when getting out!!!

    Walter
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