There is also the Daniel 7:9; Revelation 20:4. Apparently the concept of the twelve patriarchs judging their own tribes gave way to the twelve apostles (the Twelve) judging the dead. This taps into the symbolism of the Twelve representing Israel.
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Gehenna
posted Mon, 03 May 2004 20:36:00 GMT
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As John Day discusses in his book on the god Moloch, it is well known that in Jewish literature and in the NT, Gehenna is a term for the fiery portion of the underworld where the resurrected dead are destined to be punished (e.g. 4 Ezra 7:36; 2 Baruch 59:10, 85:13; Mark 9:43, 45, 47), and Gehenna itself derives from the Aramaic name for the valley of Hinnom, Gehinnam, the valley to the southeast of Jerusalem. As an eschatological term, Gehenna is constantly associated with fires that bring punishment to the wicked. What is the origin of this concept? There is a popular notion (endorsed by the Watchtower Society) that Gehenna became the term for Hell because there was a garbage dump there which was constantly being burnt up by an incinerator and that corpses were thrown onto it. However, besides the fact that cremation was unusual for the time, there is no archaeological support for this view and no ancient writer mentions it. It is found for the first time only about A.D. 1200 in Kimhi's commentary on Psalm 27:13: "And it was a despised place where they cast filth and corpses, and there was there perpetually a fire for the burning of the filth and the bones of the corpses. On account of this, the judgment place of the wicked is parabolically called Gehenna" (David Kimhi, Commentary, Ps. 27:13) Archaeological evidence however clearly shows that the valley of Hinnom was instead utilized in the first century (and for a thousand years before) as cemetary grounds, containing thousands of tombs and graves (not exactly the most respectful place for a garbage dump). The oldest biblical text (dating from before the Babylonian Exile) in fact comes from a tomb in the Hinnom Valley. Jeremiah 7:32, 31:40 also appears to attest its use as burial grounds. In view of the lack of any material evidence and historical evidence, Kimhi's claim appears to have been a late medieval attempt to explain the meaning of Gehenna.
The only fires that are certainly attested in connection with the valley of Hinnom are those associated with the sacrifices offered to the god Molech. Jeremiah 32:35 thus refers to idolators who "have built the high places of Baal in the Valley of ben-Hinnom, there to make their sons and daughters pass through fire in honor of Molech," and King Josiah is said to have "desecrated the furnace in the Valley of ben-Hinnom, so that no one could make his son or daughter pass through fire in honor of Molech" (2 Kings 23:10; cf. Leviticus 18:21, 20:2-5; Isaiah 30:33, 57:9). We also read in Jeremiah:
"They have built the high place of Topheth in the Valley of ben-Hinnom, to burn their sons and daughters; a thing I never commanded, a thing that never entered my thoughts. So now days are coming -- it is Yahweh who speaks -- when people will no longer talk to Topheth or the Valley of ben-Hinnom, but of the Valley of Slaughter. Topheth will become a burial ground, for lack of other space" (Jeremiah 7:31-33) "They have filled this place with the blood of the innocent....So now the days are coming -- it is Yahweh who speaks -- when people will no longer talk to Topheth or the Valley of ben-Hinnom, but of the Valley of Slaughter" (Jeremiah 19:4-6). The name Topheth is cognate with Aramaic tapya and Syriac tepaya meaning "place of fire", "oven", and "furance", and this meaning is perfectly consistent with Isaiah 30:33, where Yahweh promises to "set fire" to Topheth, "like a stream of brimestone". The idea in Jeremiah 7:32-34 that Topheth will be crammed with the bodies of the dead idolators anticipates the later eschatological conception. The most important fact that contributed to the eschatological conception is that the valleys running down from Mount Zion were thought to represent Sheol. This was first pointed out by J. A. Montgomery in a JBL article published in 1908. In the OT, Zion was frequently equated with the mountain of Paradise (cf. Psalm 46:5; Isaiah 8:6; Ezekiel 47:1-12; Joel 4:18; Zecharaiah 14:8; Isaiah 11:6-9, 65:25; compare Revelation 21:10-22:2), and note that Gihon is the name of both the paradisiacal river in Genesis 2:13 and the spring in Mount Zion; similarly the "mountain of God" is equated with Eden in Ezekiel 28:12. According to Isaiah 14:12-15, Sheol lies at the base of this divine cosmic mountain, and it is only natural for the deep valley below it to be associated with the underworld. Note also that a valley adjoining the Hinnom valley is called the Valley of the Rephaim in Joshua 15:8, 18:16; 2 Samuel 5:18, 23:13; 1 Chronicles 11:15, 20:4 and the Rephaim were the ghosts of the dead residing in Sheol (cf. Job 26:5-6; Isaiah 14:4-5, 9-11, 26:14). The earthly valleys associated with the underworld also evoke the "valleys of Sheol" where the Rephaim are found:"The fellow does not realize that here the Rephaim are gathered, that her guests are heading for the valleys of Sheol" (Proverbs 9:18; cf. 2:18, 9:18) This close association with the valleys near Jerusalem and Sheol explains why the Molech cult was practiced in this locale. As John Day explains with textual and archaeological evidence, Molech was a god of the underworld and was identified with the Akkadian god Nergal. This is why we read in Isaiah 57:9 that "with oil you made yourself look your best for Molech, lavishing your scents; you sent your envoys far afield, down to Sheol itself". The association with Molech and the underworld is even preserved in the Quran, where we encounter Malik as an angel of hell, to whom the damned appeal in order that he intercede with Allah (Quran, sura 43:77). Since Molech was a god of the underworld (Sheol), it is not too difficult to understand how fiery sacrifices associated with him in the Hinnom valley developed into the notion of the fires of the hellish Gehenna.
The notion of a fiery judgment developed not as a doctrine of an immortal, disembodied soul, but as part of the doctrine of the resurrection, as immortality, in a post-exilic Jewish context, was tied to the hope of a resurrection (cf. Wisdom 3:4; 2 Maccabees 7:9, 16-17; Daniel 12). The earliest reference to eternal fire, in Isaiah 66:22-24 refers only to "the corpses of men who have rebelled against [Yahweh]," so initially the belief was apparently centered only on the everlasting destruction of the dead body. When the belief in the resurrection began to take hold, some (such as the writers of 2 Maccabees and the Testament of Job 4:7-11) limited the resurrection as a reward to the righteous. But most viewed the resurrection as twofold; the eschatological belief was that at the time of the end (e.g. Judgment Day), the resurrection would bring "some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting disgrace." (Daniel 12:2). The Testament of Benjamin (second century B.C.) similarly foretold:
"And then you will see Enoch and Seth and Abraham and Isaac and Jacob being raised up at the right hand in great joy. Then shall we be raised, each of us over our tribe, and we shall prostrate ourselves before the heavenly King. Then all shall be changed, some destined for glory, others for dishonor, for the Lord first judges Israel for the wrong she has committed and then he shall do the same for all the nations." (Testament of Benjamin 10:6-11) According to 2 Baruch 50:2-54:21, the righteous would be changed "into the splendor of angels" but the wicked would be resurrected in grotesque, "horrible shapes" and "shall suffer the torment of judgment" so that "a retribution will be demanded with regard to those who have done wicked deeds". Again, the concept of hell is part of the belief in the final resurrection. Similarly, Matthew 25:46 refers to the wicked going "away to eternal punishment and the virtuous to eternal life," and John 5:27-29 says that "the Son of Man has been appointed supreme judge, for the hour is coming when the dead will leave their graves at the sound of his voice: those who did good will rise again to life and those who did evil to condemnation". Revelation 20:11-15 gives an extended vision of the resurrection of the dead, Hades being emptied of its dead, followed by the judgment of dead, and the eternal punishment of the resurrected wicked in the lake of fire.
The late Jewish and NT conception of Gehenna similarly drew on this notion of the resurrection. Thus Jesus specifies that both "soul and body" and the "body" would go to the "judgment" of Gehenna -- that is, after the resurrection (Matthew 5:29, 10:28, 23:33). This has nothing to do with punishment of a disembodied immortal soul; it is punishment of a resurrected person, of both body and spirit. Other Jewish apocalypses describe the Gehenna that the resurrected wicked will face:
This accursed valley [e.g. Gehenna] is for those accursed forever; here will gather together all those accursed ones, those who speak with their mouths unbecoming words against the Lord and utter hard words concerning his glory. Here shall they be gathered together, and here shall be their judgment, in the last days. There will be upon them the spectacle of the righteous judgment, in the presence of the righteous forever....There was produced from that bronze and fire a smell of sulfur which blended with those waters. This valley of the perversive angels shall continue to burn punitively underneath that ground....The Most High will arise on that day of judgment in order to execute a great judgment upon all the sinners...Woe unto you sinners, when you oppress the righteous ones, in the day of hard anguish, and burn them with fire! You shall be recompensed according to your deeds. On account of the deeds of your wicked ones, in blazing fires worse than fire it shall burn ....You yourselves know that they will bring your souls down to Sheol and they shall experience evil and great tribulation--in darkness, nets, and burning flame. Your souls shall enter into the great judgment; it shall be a great judgment in all the generations of the world. (1 Enoch 27:2-3, 100:4-9, 103:7-8; cf. Jude 7, 14-15, which quotes 1 Enoch to specifically refer to this judgment on the wicked) I will burn with fire those who mocked them and ruled over them in this age...I have prepared them to be food for the fire of Hades, and to be ceaseless soaring in the air of the underworld regions of the uttermost depths, to the contents of a wormy belly....For they shall putrefy in the belly of the crafty worm Azazel, and be bburned by the fire of Azazel's tongue....And behold, in this light a fiery Gehenna was enkindled, and a great crowd in the likeness of men. They were all changing in aspect and shape, running and changing form and prostrating themselves and crying aloud words I did not know. (Apocalypse of Abraham 15:6-7, 31:2-6) The souls of the wicked are brought down to Sheol by two angels of destruction, Za'api'el and Samki'el....Za'api'el is appointed to bring down the souls of the wicked from the presence of the Holy One, blessed be he, from the judgment of the Sekinah, to Sheol, to punish them with the fire in Gehinnom, with rods of burning coal. (3 Enoch 44:2-3) The Lord will come with his angels and with the armies of the holy ones of the seventh heaven and with the glory of the seventh heaven, and he will drag Beliar into Gehenna and also his armies, ... the Beloved will cause fire to go forth from him, and it will consume all the godless. (Ascension of Isaiah 4:14, 18) "And the earth shall give up those who are asleep in it; and the chambers shall give up the souls which have been committed to them. And the Most High shall be revealed upon the seat of judgment, and compassion shall pass away, and patience shall be withdrawn, but judgment alone shall remain, truth shall stand, and faithfulness shall grow strong.... Then the pit of torment shall appear, and opposite it shall be the place of rest; and the furnace of Gehenna shall be disclosed, and opposite it the Paradise of delight. Then the Most High will say to the nations that have been raised from the dead, 'Look on this side and on that, here are delight and rest, and there are fire and torments!' " (4 Ezra 7:32-38). Gehenna is copiously described in rabbinical literature. It was thought to have several gates, one in the valley of Hinnom and other in Jerusalem ('Erubin 19a), likely drawing on Isaiah 31:9 which refers to Yahweh having "his furance in Jerusalem". The entrance into Gehenna is narrow but underneath Gehenna extends infinitely (Menahot 99b), and "the whole world is like a lid for Gehenna" (Pesahim 94a). The fire in Gehenna is 60 times as hot as any terrestial fire (Berakot 57b). Regarding the punative nature of Gehenna, God declares: "I punish the slanderers from above, and I also punish them from below with glowing coals" ('Ar. 15b). That the Pharisees believed in such a concept of everlasting punishment is also evident from Josephus, Antiquities 18.1.3, and eschatological Gehenna appears in the synoptic Gospels as an already-established notion that Jesus draws on in his teaching.
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Re: Gehenna
posted Mon, 03 May 2004 21:21:00 GMT
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I'm still looking for any historical evidence that the Valley of Hinnom was used as a garbage dump, with fires burning continually to burn up refuse. I just found another vaguely relevant reference, by the Islamic scholar Mujir al-Din al-Ulaymi, who described Umar's conquest of Jerusalem in the seventh century A.D. Umar found Jerusalem in a very sad state of disrepair, with rubble and garbage everywhere, and to clean up the city, he threw rubble and dung over the city wall into the Valley of Hinnom. This not a reference to an existing garbage dump in the valley, and Mujir al-Din's history is very late, published around A.D. 1495. I'm still looking for earlier citations, but John Day claims that the earliest reference to such a dump is that of Kimhi from around 1200. It is amazing how commonly this claim is accepted as fact, when the historical evidence of the existence of such a dump is so very slight. |
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Re: Gehenna
posted Mon, 03 May 2004 22:36:00 GMT
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Hi Leolaia! Thanks, this was very interesting and informative. Got me wondering now.Just for your note, the WTS' position that Gehenna is specifically not Sheol though they are similar is because in Revelation after the dead, the righteous and unrighteous, are give up out of Sheol (mankind's common grave) then Sheol itself is thrown into Gehenna. Thus Gehenna is the place representing final and ultimate destruction. As well, Satan is thrown into Gehenna and so are beasts like the 666-Beast and the "false prophet"; these abstract concepts of organizations and conceptual places like Sheol itself being destroyed in Gehenna supports the idea that Gehenna is a symbolic place of "final" destruction. Interesting no real evidence of any dump of burning fire outside Jerusalem. Does that mean it didn't exist?The concept of the "resurrection" seems to have been a very eary belief as it is referenced in Job at least, who was considered to be a contemporary of Moses. So I don't think the concept of the resurrection was that late. Interesting research though, THANKS!!JC |
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Re: Gehenna
posted Mon, 03 May 2004 23:56:00 GMT
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In the ancient Semitic world an altar connected the world of the worshipper with that of the god. So it was usual to place an altar as close as possible to the divine realm for which it served as the contact point. Hence the desire to build a ziggurat "with its top in the heavens" (Genesis 11:4). Jeremiah 2:20 and Ezekiel 6:13 protest at worship of astral deities "upon every hill". Conversely, underworld gods could be contacted through altars in low places: ravines, crevices or caves. Evidence for naming the underworld after the place which served as its entrance can be found in Ancient Near Eastern Texts Relating to the Old Testament (J.B.Pritchard, 1955, p.107), which relates Ishtar's descent into the underworld from Kutu, a city which was a centre of a cult to Nergal (i.e. the planet Mars): To the Land of no Return, the realm of [Ereshkigal], Ishtar, the daughter of Sin, [set] her mind....Forth went the gatekeeper [to] open the door for her: "Enter, my Lady, that Cutha may rejoice over thee, That the palace of the Land of no Return may be glad at thy presence." Similarly, the river Acheron which was thought to be a point of access with the dead [Herodotus, The Histories, V.92] as it flowed to the surface from the realm beneath, became the name of the river surrounding the underworld [Homer, Odyssey, x.513] and later became the name of the underworld itself [Sophocles, Antigone, 805; Virgil, Aeneid, VII.312].So, although the earliest mention of the underworld as Gehenna is in the New Testament and early Rabbinic literature, it possibly dates back to the sacrifices to the underworld god, Molech, in the time of Isaiah.Earnest |
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Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 04 May 2004 00:08:00 GMT
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Exactly. John Day in fact mentions that very thing..... the city of Kutu being the cult site/underworld city of Nergal. An example from Ugarit may be the mention of the cities of Athtart and Edrei in Bashan as the cities of Rapiu, the king (mlk) of the underworld. Deuteronomy 3:11-14 similarly mentions this locale in connection with the last of the Rephaim, and it stands on a plateau below Mount Hermon (Sirion), regarded in Ugaritic epic as the heavenly dwelling place of El and the divine council (compare 1 Enoch 6:6). |
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Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 04 May 2004 01:18:00 GMT
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Another wonderful thread Leolaia. As JWs we were asked to disregard a great many things. The T. of Ben. 10:6-11 reference to being raised "over a tribe" certainly reminds of Luke 22 and Matt 19 promising to "judge (rule)tribes of Israel. Perhaps this could be the subject of another thread.I often puzzle at the varied Hellenized Jewish concepts of afterlife. The influence of the Greek immortal spirit certainly shaped the images but yet they retained some sort of necessity for a body in Persian fashion. Even in Job (written post Exile) we find the author conceiving of a resurrection to Yahwah's presence in a fleshly body. (19:26) |
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Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 04 May 2004 01:51:00 GMT
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The Ascension of Isaiah and the Apocalypse of Abraham may well predate Matt.
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Re: Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 04 May 2004 16:53:00 GMT
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There is also the Daniel 7:9; Revelation 20:4. Apparently the concept of the twelve patriarchs judging their own tribes gave way to the twelve apostles (the Twelve) judging the dead. This taps into the symbolism of the Twelve representing Israel.
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Re: Gehenna
posted Thu, 13 May 2004 03:04:00 GMT
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The twelve apostles will judge the "12 tribes of Israel" during Judgment Day, which inculdes some of the ancients who are part of the "first resurrection."
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Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 07 Dec 2004 04:26:00 GMT
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Leolaia, There is a popular notion (endorsed by the Watchtower Society) that Gehenna became the term for Hell because there was a garbage dump there which was constantly being burnt up by an incinerator and that corpses were thrown onto it. However, besides the fact that cremation was unusual for the time, there is no archaeological support for this view and no ancient writer mentions it. It is found for the first time only about A.D. 1200 in Kimhi's commentary on Psalm 27:13: After finally having a chance to look into this, I've found the practically everything I read on the subject suggests that the valley of Hinnom was a garbage dump. The Interpreter's One-Volume Commentary says the following:Because of its nearness to Potters Street (cf. 18:1) and the consequent dumping of a lot of potters? rubbish just outside it, one gate of Jerusalem was known as Potsherd Gate. This gate led to a valley known either as the valley of the son of Hinnom, after a previous owner, or as Topheth. This 2nd name may originally have had other vowels, e.g. Tephath (see above on 7:16-20). ?Tephath? may have had a particular significance which is now lost, or it may have been just a place name. Because of its previous association with child-sacrifice cults, Josiah made this valley into a garbage dump for the city (II Kings 23:10) and it smoldered continually with rubbish fires. When the doctrine of an afterlife with rewards and punishments became widespread among the Jews ? during the 2nd and 1st cents. B.C. ? (?valley of?) Hinnom was corrupted into Gehenna, the NT term for hell.- Interpreter?s One-Volume Commentary, page 386a ? 2 Kings 23:10 (NRSV), suggests that Josiah defiled (garbage dump???) Topheth.10 He defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of Ben-hinnom, so that no one would make a son or a daughter pass through fire as an offering to Molech. - 2 Kings 23:10 (NRSV)Can you offer a little more information on the idea that the valley of Hinnom was not a garbage dump, or be a little more specific on what is meant by Josiah's "desecration" of the valley? pseudo |
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Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 15 Mar 2005 15:25:00 GMT
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Pseudoxristos...I just stumbled upon this thread and your late comment and as Leolaia has disappeared for now I'll reply. The garbage dump tradition truly has no archaeological support, it appears, like Leolaia said, to have been a late attempt (12 th century) to explain the associations of Gehenna with punishment. This simplified explanation that required no embarassing early superstition caught on and has been repeated and enlarged so much that nearly every commentary uses it. I have read a couple more cautious comentaries that say this dump explanation is based upon 'speculation'. The desecration of the holy site in Jeremiah is it's use as a comon cemetery.
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Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:04:00 GMT
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As a side note, the wording of 2 Kings 23 unwittingly reveals the artificiality of Joshiah's Reform in comparison to traditional Israelite religion. Deuteronomistic history considers those cults as unclean, abominable, yet it has to use the vocabulary of ritual uncleanness (to defile = lit. "to make unclean," tm') for desecrating the (politically) "unclean" holy places... Likewise the sacred prostitutes will still be referred to by the root qdsh, just as the Holy of holies. It's easier to rewrite history than to erase the traces of the past in the words themselves...
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Re: Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 15 Mar 2005 19:31:00 GMT
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I'm not sure what that means narkissos, can you explain more?
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Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 15 Mar 2005 22:08:00 GMT
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OK, I'll try to put it backwards:Most of the OT technical priestly vocabulary is not a an artificial creation; it keeps the tracks of the ancient Israelite religion, which was a diversified system of ritual and worship (including temple prostitution, Asherah worship, Molech/Melech ritual, worship of the dead, etc.). The dichotomies holy / profane, clean / unclean, already belong to this ancient system.The political Reform of Josiah and the subsequent Deuteronomistic history declare 90 % of this ancient religion (all except the Jerusalem Yahwist temple "orthodox" ritual) wrong and retrojects this view upon the past, using the priestly vocabulary to its own political ends: what was once "holy" and "clean" in other sanctuaries becomes (and always was, in Deuteronomistic perspective) "profane", "unclean" or "abominable".But when it comes to describe the Reform the two uses (Deuteronomistic and ancient priestly) of the same terms clash against one another: to clean an unclean place (from the Deuteronomistic standpoint) Josiah has to defile it, i.e. make it unclean (in the ancient priestly sense). With this lexical dissonance the Deuteronomist historian betrays his ordinary twist of priestly vocabulary and his general agenda. The positive name of the "temple prostitutes" (qedeshim, the "holy ones", e.g. v. 7) is a similar evidence of the artificiality of Deuteronomism: they were never an "abomination" before Deuteronism declared them "abominable". |
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Re: Re: Gehenna
posted Tue, 15 Mar 2005 23:58:00 GMT
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Very very interesting. Where did you learn this?
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Re: Gehenna
posted Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:15:00 GMT
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The translator's eye. ![]() |
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Re: Re: Gehenna
posted Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:01:00 GMT
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I guess that means I'm screwed. |
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Re: Gehenna
posted Wed, 16 Mar 2005 02:20:00 GMT
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Thanks, peacefulpete and Narkissos.Both of your comments have been helpful.pseudo |
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Re: Gehenna
posted Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:57:00 GMT
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PP, I don't know what you mean but what I meant is that these are the kind of things you just can't help to notice when you happen to strive for consistency in Bible translation (an impossible goal in itself): from this standpoint the variations in Hebrew usage then clearly appear, and sometimes it turns quite interesting indeed.
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Re: Re: Gehenna
posted Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:45:00 GMT
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I meant that I'll never be able to make such observations as I am not a translator. But it's nice to have friends that are.
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