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what the watchtower says about the bible

zev	what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:22:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 1178 of 2253 Since 2/4/2001	* w65 7/1 391 What Is Required to Understand the Bible? * He does not impart his holy spirit and an understanding and appreciation of his Word apart from his visible organization. * w67 10/1 587 Finding Freedom with Jehovah's Visible Organization * Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible. For this reason the Bible cannot be properly understood without Jehovahs visible organization in mind. * w81 2/15 19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? * We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the faithful and discreet slave organization. * w81 8/15 28-9 Serving Jehovah "Shoulder to Shoulder" * They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such Bible reading, they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendoms clergy were teaching 100 years ago, and some have even returned to celebrating Christendoms festivals again, such as the Roman Saturnalia of December 25! Jesus and his apostles warned against such lawless ones. i rest my case. anyone care to cross examine?
witchywoman	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 03:37:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 129 of 289 Since 6/5/2002	Well according to the "watchtower" I don`t even need a bible. How about this, what does the bible say about a watchtower? Or better yet, what does the bible say about a publishing co.? witchywoman
Bang	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 06:58:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 694 of 746 Since 10/31/2001	How about this, what does the bible say about a watchtower? "For the palace will be forsaken, the populous city deserted; the hill and the watchtower will become dens for ever" Or better yet, what does the bible say about a publishing co.? "The sayings of the wise are like goads, and like nails firmly fixed are the collected sayings which are given by one Shepherd. My son, beware of anything beyond these. Of making many books there is no end.." a couple of things bang
zev	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 17:38:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 1181 of 2253 Since 2/4/2001	* pe 53 5 Is the Bible Really from God? * 20 So anyone who says that the Bible does not contain the same information as when it was originally written simply does not know the facts. Jehovah God has seen to it that his Word has been protected not only from mistakes copyists made but also from attempts of others to make additions to it. The Bible itself contains Gods promise that his Word would be kept in a pure form for us today. anyone care to comment on things the watchtower "changed" in the bible?????
simwitness	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 17:44:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 137 of 279 Since 2/11/2002	Jehovah God has seen to it that his Word has been protected not only from mistakes copyists made Of course, the WTBS found the "mistakes" where the copyists left out the name "Jehovah"... What a laugh... by there very own words they condemn themselves.
zev	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 17:56:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 1182 of 2253 Since 2/4/2001	correction. JEHOVER thank you
simwitness	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:17:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 138 of 279 Since 2/11/2002	I also liked this one, because I allways looked at it as a slam at the Russel era folks: They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such Bible reading, they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendoms clergy were teaching 100 years ago, and some have even returned to celebrating Christendoms festivals again, such as the Roman Saturnalia of December 25! Jesus and his apostles warned against such lawless ones. Since, until Rutherford, Christmas and other "festivals" were just fine. This was also prior to when the WTBS was "forced" to acklnowledge their roots with Russell... Ah, the information age, how grand it is!
Satanus	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:20:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 2705 of 15085 Since 8/31/2001	bang on the gavel The wt has been found guilty, condemned with it's own words. The punishment: burning in hell eternally. Demons will lead away the prisoner and deliever it to the infernal one for execution of the sentence. Court dismissed. Tennis, anyone? SS
ashitaka	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:20:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 2559 of 4515 Since 9/27/2001	They read those exaact excerpts from the WT when a friend was accused of apostacy for reading the bible and just talking about it. Some guy who had it in for him started the accusations, and that was it for him. It was allowed to be dropped because he was part of a powerful JW family, but safe to say no one even says hello to him anymore. ash
zev	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:30:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 1183 of 2253 Since 2/4/2001	NWT * Rbi8 Hebrews 1:5-6 * 6 But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: And let all Gods angels do obeisance to him. New International Version (NIV) Hebrews 1 ⁶And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, "Let all God's angels worship him. changing words? you be the judge.
somebody	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:32:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 1038 of 1444 Since 7/5/2000	Jehover noticed that "mistake" in the NWT some time after 1961. My NWT published by the Watchtower Bible And Tract Society (copyright 1961) reads as follows Hebrews 1:6 But when he again brings his First-born into the inhabited earth, he says: And let all Gods angels worship him. peace, somebody
drahcir yarrum	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:48:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 625 of 709 Since 6/14/2001	"Jehover", I like it. When my son was about 9 years old, we took him to my neices wedding. It was the first time he'd ever been in a Kingdom Hall. I figured he would be bored shitless as I was, but as we were driving from the KH to the reception, he blurts out, "hey, who's this Jovagod guy anyway?" I thought I was going to pass out from laughing. Does anyone have a tetragrammaton T-shirt for sale?
zev	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:29:00 GMT (8/6/2002)
Post 1185 of 2253 Since 2/4/2001	i think this is supposed to be it.....i aint sure. i dont speak no hebrew. yhwh
Ephesians6	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Wed, 07 Aug 2002 03:07:00 GMT (8/7/2002)
Post 34 of 37 Since 10/3/2001	So then does the Roman Catholics get told this. They also say they are the true Church.
funkyderek	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Wed, 07 Aug 2002 10:36:00 GMT (8/7/2002)
Post 702 of 5554 Since 7/3/2001	* w81 8/15 28-9 Serving Jehovah "Shoulder to Shoulder" * They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such Bible reading, they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendoms clergy were teaching 100 years ago, and some have even returned to celebrating Christendoms festivals again, such as the Roman Saturnalia of December 25! Jesus and his apostles warned against such lawless ones. The above is such an incredible example of doublethink, it's staggering that the WTS had the balls to use it. If you take out the perjorative statements, they're saying that a study of the Bible and only the Bible doesn't lead one to the same conclusions as the Watchtower Society, but to those of "Christendom". Shouldn't that tell them something?
ozziepost	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Wed, 07 Aug 2002 13:26:00 GMT (8/7/2002)
New South Wales Post 3479 of 15014 Since 2/5/2001	How appreciative we should be that Jehovah's earthly organisation lovingly provides filters! Cheers, Ozzie
blacksheep	Re: what the watchtower says about the bible posted Fri, 09 Aug 2002 18:56:00 GMT (8/9/2002)
Post 92 of 1192 Since 5/13/2002	Yeah. Any idiot should realize that no individual reader of the Bible could, on their own, figure out the importance of keeping track of every minute you spent "preaching" to others as well as an accurate log of how many books/pamphlets you left with others to turn it into a central body for record keeping and publication of "God's organization" statistics. Only God's "visible" organization could figure that out, and actually implement procedures to gather all this highly spiritual data.

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